tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post2045291616867148714..comments2024-01-02T02:18:30.960-08:00Comments on Israel Thrives: The Hatred for Sarah Tuttle-SingerMike L.http://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-85211275654327316812023-01-10T18:17:20.615-08:002023-01-10T18:17:20.615-08:00unknown, you probably meant staunch not starch but...unknown, you probably meant staunch not starch but when you are clearly a whiny retard you probably struggle with language. I am far from pathologically angry lol, I just don't suffer fools and idiots gladly, clearly you are at least one of those things. Ryan Bellerosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14676295465349050779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-48052270089490450622018-12-26T17:41:26.211-08:002018-12-26T17:41:26.211-08:00If Arabs or "Palestinians,"were indigeno...If Arabs or "Palestinians,"were indigenous to Israel, one thinks the freaking Bible might have mentioned it. This ain't rocket science international community.Doodadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03349941094682080146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-46725455414580173272018-12-26T14:29:14.995-08:002018-12-26T14:29:14.995-08:00The one issue I take with Paula Stern's respon...The one issue I take with Paula Stern's response to STS is that she has the wrong reason why Arabs blowing up buses should not be considered equivalent to Israelis shouting "Death to Arabs!"<br /><br />In Stern's telling, shouting "Death to Arabs!" is just an ordinary case of racism, not to impute that she considers such racism acceptable. However, such an expression is a call to genocide, and the step from that to taking steps toward that end (such as by blowing up buses) is not as large as the step from simple expression of ethnic animus to taking steps towards genocide.<br /><br />However, there is something which does show a clear difference between Israelis calling for genocide and the Arabs who take concrete action. That difference is the different ecosystems that the two live in. Israel has created an ecosystem in which those calling for genocide have a harder time finding like-minded supporters, let alone logistical support towards making any concrete steps happen. The Palestinian ecosystem is one which ostracizes anyone who dissents from such genocidal thoughts.Sar Shalomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12249389597567433544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-24107873910075267972018-12-26T14:16:11.135-08:002018-12-26T14:16:11.135-08:00As to Bellerose's only accepting his own views...As to Bellerose's only accepting his own views, there are arguments that other views are not legitimate or that the conditions for an alternate view to be legitimate cannot be met. That said, presenting conditions for an alternate view to be legitimate is more likely to be convincing than uncategorically belittling anyone with a contrary view.<br /><br />In the case of indigeneity, the condition for accepting any definition is that it has to apply to all disputes of who is indigenous. It was that requirement that led Cobo-Martinez to develop the definition he did. What could be done is to provide some other examples of contested indigeneity, ask the poser of the alternative definition for indigeneity who he considers indigenous in that circumstance and who their definition would define as indigenous. Example, ask how many generations will it take for the Han settlers to become indigenous in Tibet. Then watch their cognitive dissonance go berserk.Sar Shalomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12249389597567433544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-67515919083815478612018-12-26T12:43:41.793-08:002018-12-26T12:43:41.793-08:00Winston Churchill said this in 1937 CE:
“[Winsto...<b>Winston Churchill said this in 1937 CE:</b><br /><br /> “[Winston] Churchill did not accept that the Jews <br />were a foreign race [to the Holy Land]. He said it was <br />the Arabs who had been the outsiders, the conquerors.”<br /><br /><b>SOURCE:</b> <i>Churchill and the Jews</i> <br />(chapter 10, page 115) by Martin Gilbert, year 2007 CE<br /><br /><b>CHRONOLOGY:</b> <br />Winston Churchill was British Prime Minister <br />from 1940 to 1945 CE and from 1951 to 1955 CE.<br /><br />===================================<br /><b><i>Who are the Palestinians?</i></b><br />\<br />https://shilohmusings.blogspot.com/2018/06/who-are-palestinians.htmlMr. Cohenhttps://shilohmusings.blogspot.com/2018/06/who-are-palestinians.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-30527488931690022972018-12-26T08:14:44.458-08:002018-12-26T08:14:44.458-08:00I like Bellerose because he a straight-talker and,...I like Bellerose because he a straight-talker and, more importantly, he emphasizes the indigeneity issue.Mike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-62143386119495604562018-12-25T09:47:40.075-08:002018-12-25T09:47:40.075-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.JeffwithaJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07073609950380822171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-40363038946024591962018-12-25T09:19:02.325-08:002018-12-25T09:19:02.325-08:00Actually, tossing around the word "retard&quo...Actually, tossing around the word "retard" to denote people with other views is an insult to those with other views. JeffwithaJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07073609950380822171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-38535740698785470882018-12-25T02:40:32.288-08:002018-12-25T02:40:32.288-08:00Mike, I agree, the indigenous argument is signific...Mike, I agree, the indigenous argument is significant but as always the devil is in the detail. Bellerose regularly bullies people that present any other rationale than his own. He regularly tosses words around like retard to denote people that have other views (which is at the very least extremely insulting to those with developmental disabilities) and he doesn't have an ounce of compassion for anyone except his own views. Yes, he's a starch defender of Israel and because of that, I used to overlook his methods and ignore what I found distasteful. But ultimately I think he hurts the Jewish people and Israel, despite his support. He props up division within the Jewish community which ultimately hurts us and looks to personally crucify anyone who offers any other flavor of Zionism. In short, he's a divider. I actually think STS is a divider too although her methods are not quite as distasteful as his are. STS is clearly trying to build her significant following and I do think she bends her views to those that are likely able to net her the greatest amount of support. Bellerose is just a pathologically angry guy who uses his platform as a way to side-step the give and take of human interaction. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13923923651866941447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-6229374671567368232018-12-24T15:03:20.271-08:002018-12-24T15:03:20.271-08:00Uppity Bellerose is a little too uppity for some. ...Uppity Bellerose is a little too uppity for some. I happen to like uppity since non-uppity really hasn't worked that well has it? Pro-Israel needs a huge amount of more uppity.Doodadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03349941094682080146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-74283560366554395182018-12-24T14:33:46.775-08:002018-12-24T14:33:46.775-08:00Bellerose matters because he champions the signifi...Bellerose matters because he champions the significance of Jewish indigeneity to the Land of Israel.<br /><br />It is an important argument.<br /><br />https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/224254/bellerose-aboriginal-peopleMike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-15762496377703943492018-12-24T10:23:28.150-08:002018-12-24T10:23:28.150-08:00First off STS does not live in Jerusalem. She liv...First off STS does not live in Jerusalem. She lives adjacent to a Kibbutz near Ramle. <br /><br />Second, I have no idea what lead to Ryan Bellerose's firing at the hands of B'nai Brith. But Ryan Bellerose is a hostile person who uses his following to turn himself into the hero of every story he recounts via his many FB profiles (actually he and STS have this in common). He's very plainly a bully, who cannot tolerate anyone who doesn't agree with him and he is downright abusive to anyone who challenges him. So whatever the circumstances of his firing, whether Sarah was involved or not, he could also look at himself. The B'nai Brith organization certainly isn't going to want anyone representing them who casts such a negative light on himself and on B'nai Brith. B'nai Brith has been around for a long time and I am quite certain that Sarah Tuttle Singer can't influence them to fire an employee in good standing. <br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13923923651866941447noreply@blogger.com