tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post2231995226546711295..comments2024-01-02T02:18:30.960-08:00Comments on Israel Thrives: Obama Wrecks NASAMike L.http://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-39297128182169953492013-04-09T07:45:22.102-07:002013-04-09T07:45:22.102-07:00Interesting to some extent but I'm not reading...Interesting to some extent but I'm not reading a 635 page document. Empress Trudyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06073538968722986065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-12160344322129239382013-04-09T06:11:17.162-07:002013-04-09T06:11:17.162-07:00No worries, Dan!No worries, Dan!JayinPhiladelphiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14556212008313470286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-21939274606002383442013-04-08T23:44:18.968-07:002013-04-08T23:44:18.968-07:00Jay,
And I apologize for my not posting immediate...Jay,<br /><br />And I apologize for my not posting immediately after <a href="#c3767450562841544282" rel="nofollow">your kind comment</a> my reciprocal comment, and, instead, posting another comment by me in response to a previous comment by you.<br /><br />It's hard for me to do this writing and posting of comments on the internet.<br /><br />Thank you for your kind comment.<br /><br />Best wishes,<br /><br />Dan<br />Daniel Bielakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15792786894694523598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-14678060256535143462013-04-08T21:23:20.343-07:002013-04-08T21:23:20.343-07:00(from continued)
"Give me evidence of stonin...(from continued)<br /><br />"<i>Give me evidence of stonings in America, which are condoned by prosecutorial bodies.</i>"<br /><br />I didn't say that there have been stonings in America which have been condoned by prosecutorial bodies. There have not been been stonings in America which have been condoned by prosecutorial bodies.<br /><br />----<br /><br />"<i>Prove to me that I can't wander Germantown Avenue (even as I regularly do) without being threatened with death.</i>"<br /><br />I didn't say that you can't wander Germantown Avenue without being threatened with death.<br /><br />----<br /><br />"<i>We can acknowledge the threat of Jihad without exaggerating</i>..."<br /><br />Yes, of course. And I'm not exaggerating.<br />Daniel Bielakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15792786894694523598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-4236918141032120232013-04-08T21:22:52.409-07:002013-04-08T21:22:52.409-07:00"What if I don't believe those videos, th..."<i>What if I don't believe those videos, though, Daniel?</i>"<br /><br />What if someone who was directed to videos exposing the Mohammed Al-Durah affair hoax said: "What if I don't believe those videos, though?"<br /><br />"<i>a few folks on YouTube claiming</i>"<br /><br />It's not "a few folks on YouTube". It's former members of the U.S. government (executive administrations, FBI, CIA, military), lawyers, Middle Eastern non-Muslims, ex-Muslims, truly "moderate" (non-orthodox: non-Shariah-adherent, non-Shariah-proponent) Muslims (Zuhdi Jasser, Tarek Fatah) -- well-educated well-informed intelligent people.<br /><br />And they're not merely "claiming". They're documenting. And recounting. And explaining.<br /><br />"<i>Give me proof of honor killings in America.</i>"<br /><br />Well, whether or not there are honor killings by Muslims in the U.S. doesn't, in itself, really have to do with the implementation of Shariah law in the U.S., but:<br /><br />http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/01/said-girl-i-am.html<br /><br />http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/05/former-prosecutor-on-the-honor-killing-of-fatima-abdallah-this-woman-was-beaten-with-a-vengeance-aut.html<br /><br />And, by the way:<br /><br />David Wood (a counter-Jihad activist, and Evangelical Christian) gives an account of his being illegally arrested and held in Dearborn, Michigan<br /><br />David Wood of Acts 17 Apologetics at the Jessica Mokdad Human Rights Conference <br />http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2012/05/video-david-wood-of-act-17-apologetics-at-the-jessica-mokdad-human-rights-conference-.html<br /><br />Jay, I realize that you may not be able to listen to this, but I'm listing it anyway. Maybe it will be informative to others.<br /><br />This account by David Wood of what happened to him is alarming. And, by the way, additionally, this account by David Wood includes his account of a police officer saying that he witnessed the covering up of Muslim honor killings by government authorities in Dearborn, Michigan.<br /><br />Here is a video with video footage of some of the events that David Wood described in this account:<br /><br />Arab Festival 2010: False Accusations and Shoddy Police Work <br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo51z7DORQg<br /><br />And, by the way, David Wood, and Nabeel Qureshi, David Wood's fellow member of his organization "Acts 17 Apologetics", are not associated with, and behave quite differently than, the Christian group that had an altercation with Muslim participants at an "Arab" gathering in Dearborn Michigan which was an altercation that Mike listed on Israel-Thrives. David Wood and Nabeel Qureshi behave in a civilized manner, and, of course, behave lawfully. And David Wood and Nabeel Qureshi have video-recorded their interactions at, and their having been illegally removed from, the "Arab Festival" in Dearborn by Muslim Arab "security officers" and colluding police officers multiple times.<br /><br />Here are some of those video-recordings:<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/user/Acts17Apologetics/videos?query=dearborn<br /><br />(continued)Daniel Bielakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15792786894694523598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-7662228059755049122013-04-08T19:27:27.267-07:002013-04-08T19:27:27.267-07:00Re: Sharia law in the US. FWIW.....I have no thoug...Re: Sharia law in the US. FWIW.....I have no thoughts one way or the other at this point but here are some examples for you guys to look at. FYI<br /><br />http://shariahinamericancourts.com/Doodadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03349941094682080146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-44314686944541898682013-04-08T18:57:40.703-07:002013-04-08T18:57:40.703-07:00What if I don't believe those videos, though, ...What if I don't believe those videos, though, Daniel?<br /><br />I'm going to need solid proof that Sharia is taking hold in the US, and a few folks on YouTube claiming that it is, despite all evidence to the contrary, doesn't quite do it for me.<br /><br />Give me proof of honor killings in America. Give me evidence of stonings in America, which are condoned by prosecutorial bodies.<br /><br />Prove to me that I can't wander Germantown Avenue (even as I regularly do) without being threatened with death.<br /><br />We can acknowledge the threat of Jihad without exaggerating...JayinPhiladelphiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14556212008313470286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-87682954273286638552013-04-08T18:51:41.439-07:002013-04-08T18:51:41.439-07:00"Your experience with Skype strikes me as rat..."<i>Your experience with Skype strikes me as rather familiar, what with my own problems re: using YouTube and all</i>..."<br /><br />Yeah. :)<br /><br />And, with me, my own problems using things are problems that I have in doing almost everything -- not just with using Skype and not just with using YouTube. It's painful and difficult for me to write comments on the internet. <br /><br />But, in any case,<br /><br />Best wishesDaniel Bielakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15792786894694523598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-85920700412696447362013-04-08T18:41:11.738-07:002013-04-08T18:41:11.738-07:00Jay,
I don't know what to do to communicate t...Jay,<br /><br />I don't know what to do to communicate to you what I know about the situation.<br /><br />I've provided, in comments on this post, links to videos which (and a link to comments on another post with links to videos which) provide actual evidence.<br /><br />You expressed that you can't listen to those videos because your hearing is impaired, and I understand that and I appreciate that.<br /><br />But, I don't have the wherewithal to do any more right now.<br /><br />Maybe I'll be able to do so later.Daniel Bielakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15792786894694523598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-37674505628415442822013-04-08T18:37:47.896-07:002013-04-08T18:37:47.896-07:00Your experience with Skype strikes me as rather fa...Your experience with Skype strikes me as rather familiar, what with my own problems re: using YouTube and all...<br /><br />;)JayinPhiladelphiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14556212008313470286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-34866213056037568382013-04-08T18:33:13.436-07:002013-04-08T18:33:13.436-07:00Correction: I now realize that the YouTube user Kl...Correction: I now realize that the YouTube user Klingschor may not be ex-Muslim. I don't know whether or the YouTube user Klingschor is ex-Muslim.<br /><br />And by the way, the YouTube user Klingschor has expressed typical Western "Liberal" wrong views about Western so-called "Conservatives" who are expressing facts about Islam and about the current Islamic supremacist political movement (and who support Israel). He has referred to such people as "Zionist anti-Muslim bigots".<br /><br />I, previously, sent him some private messages in which I wrote a lot of information about the situation. He replied to me and said that he wasn't going to read it, but that if I wanted to share some information with him I could talk to him on Skype. It's very difficult for me to that, but, eventually, a long while after that, I managed to call him up on Skype, but he wasn't ready to talk at that time. I haven't tried to call him up on Skype again. It's been too difficult for me.Daniel Bielakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15792786894694523598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-62477685356851702932013-04-08T18:32:21.536-07:002013-04-08T18:32:21.536-07:00Daniel, you're going to have to provide eviden...Daniel, you're going to have to provide evidence that Sharia law is actually taking hold in the US.<br /><br />For the record, I take absolutely no offense whatsoever at your 'fisking' of my comments, but you really do need to provide more evidence than you've ever done so far.<br /><br />No, Sharia is not taking hold in the US. I'm not ''blinded' by the mainstream media, I just insist on actual evidence.<br /><br />Of which there is none.<br /><br />Please provide solid, concrete evidence of Sharia taking hold in just one US municipality, Daniel. I promise I'll look into it, and it I'm wrong I'll fully admit it.<br /><br />We don't need to go there, where there is no problem yet, is my point...JayinPhiladelphiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14556212008313470286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-33835153946237408272013-04-08T18:07:56.835-07:002013-04-08T18:07:56.835-07:00"Sorry Dan, I can't hear YouTubes which d..."<i>Sorry Dan, I can't hear YouTubes which don't have captions.</i>"<br /><br />That makes it difficult for me to communicate to you what I know of the situation.<br /><br />"<i>Meningitis did a number on me eons ago, back when I was 19.</i>"<br /><br />I'm sorry about that.<br /><br />"<i>But I also don't believe any videos which claim Sharia is taking hold here in the US.</i>"<br /><br />Well, whether or not one believes that something that exists exists does not make that thing exist or not exist.<br /><br />"<i>That's just not true</i><br /><br />Yes, it is true.<br /> <br />"<i>and if anyone would see this it would surely be someone who lives in North Philadelphia, right?</i>"<br /><br />No.<br /> <br />"<i>There is no such thing happening here now, nor is there even a threat of same</i>..."<br /><br />That is incorrect.<br /><br />"<i>Can you provide evidence that such a thing is happening here?</i>"<br /><br />I have done so in listing the links that I've listed which are links to information which provide evidence that this is happening.<br /><br />"<i>If it's happening, we certainly need to know it.</i>"<br /><br />Exactly right.<br /><br />"<i>But I just don't see it?</i>"<br /><br />Yes. You and most other people. That's the whole problem. It's not being reported on by the mass media. Rather, those who are trying to make it known are being slandered and libeled by the mass media. And, as the information that I've provided document, it's being done consciously covertly.<br /><br />The U.S. government, and the U.S. mass media, was infiltrated by the USSR in the 1930's. And, in the 1930's, most people didn't know about that. And most people in the 1930's didn't believe that what was the case about the Nazis was the case about the Nazis. That didn't make what was the case about the Nazis not the case about the Nazis. And, by the way, most of the first people in the U.S. who knew what was the case about the Nazis were "Conservatives".<br /><br /><b>“But I am a Zionist!”, by Clemens Heni</b><br /><br />"<i>For a liberal, voting for McCain is not without contradictions – but it is necessary. On Germany, anti-Semitism, Israel, Iran and the new American Presidency</i>"<br /><br />"<i>The art of the intellectual is to have his/her finger on the pulse of the times, in terms of both politics and social theory. Peter Viereck (1916-2006), almost forgotten today even in the USA, was such a splendid artist. In 1940, in light of Nazi Germany and World War II, he wrote in a brilliant article: 'But I am a conservative', which became a beacon for conservatives in America, so to speak. In doing so, he decidedly turned against his own father, Sylvester Viereck, an enthusiastic Nazi who was the first foreign journalist to interview Hitler in the early 1920s. Even more, it was a wake-up call in America, against the 'liberals' and 'leftists' who praised the Hitler-Stalin Pact as well as the USSR as a bulwark against war.</i> ..."<br /><br />http://clemensheni.wordpress.com/2008/11/13/but-i-am-a-zionist/<br />Daniel Bielakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15792786894694523598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-43712700893448046942013-04-08T17:39:48.936-07:002013-04-08T17:39:48.936-07:00(from continued)
On an action by an American Judg...(from continued)<br /><br />On an action by an American Judge in Pennsylvania (who is a convert to Islam)<br /><br /><b>Muslim Admits to Attacking Atheist; Muslim Judge Dismisses Case</b><br /><br />Judge Mark Martin:<br /><br />"<i>Having had the benefit of having spent over 2 and a half years in predominantly Muslim countries I think I know a little bit about the faith of Islam. In fact I have a copy of the Koran here and I challenge you sir to show me where it says in the Koran that Mohammad arose and walked among the dead. I think you misinterpreted things. Before you start mocking someone else’s religion you may want to find out a little bit more about it it makes you look like a dufus and Mr. (Defendant) is correct. In many Arabic speaking countries something like this is definitely against the law there. In their society in fact it can be punishable by death and it frequently is in their society.</i> ..."<br /><br />http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/crime/muslim-admits-attacking-atheist-muslim-judge-dismisses-case<br /><br />----<br /><br /><b>On cultural infiltration:</b><br /><br />Two videos which refute the National Geographic Museum Islamic propaganda film and exhibit "1001 Inventions and the Library of Secrets":<br /><br /><b>1001 LIES: Muslim Propaganda (aimed at Children)</b><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqRqjzLCcqI<br /><br />video by ex-Muslim -- YouTube user "Klingschor"<br /><br /><b>Science and Islam: A Reply to "1001 Inventions and the Library of Secrets"</b><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCtjXpLyvxA<br /><br />Video by counter-Jihadist (and Evangelical Christian) David Wood<br /><br />----<br /><br /><b>Elementary Schools in the U.S. are, at the behest of Saudi Arabia and Muslim Brotherhood organizations, implementing pro-Islamic propaganda "Islamic studies" courses with textbooks funded by Saudi Arabia</b><br /><br />Brigitte Gabriel talks about this:<br /><br /><b>Brigitte Gabriel Denver presentation part 4</b><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baTiZk9_t7c<br /><br />----<br /><br /><br />Jay, these things are just a couple of flakes of snow on the tip of the iceberg.Daniel Bielakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15792786894694523598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-25989073139966664492013-04-08T17:38:14.569-07:002013-04-08T17:38:14.569-07:00Sorry Dan, I can't hear YouTubes which don'...Sorry Dan, I can't hear YouTubes which don't have captions.<br /><br />Meningitis did a number on me eons ago, back when I was 19.<br /><br />But I also don't believe any videos which claim Sharia is taking hold here in the US. That's just not true, and if anyone would see this it would surely be someone who lives in North Philadelphia, right?<br /><br />There is no such thing happening here now, nor is there even a threat of same...<br /><br />Can you provide evidence that such a thing is happening here?<br /><br />~~~<br /><br />Look, you and I are both on the same side when it comes to the threat posed against our society; but it's failed, and we should both be glad of that.<br /><br />IMO, there are much bigger battles to choose rhan this...JayinPhiladelphiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14556212008313470286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-70201746684780529972013-04-08T17:25:33.755-07:002013-04-08T17:25:33.755-07:00Jay,
I listed links to information about this pre...Jay,<br /><br />I listed links to information about this previously in <a href="http://israel-thrives.blogspot.com/2013/03/its-not-personal.html?showComment=1364065875142#c5442260482082477677" rel="nofollow">a series of comments on a previous post</a>.<br /><br />Here are some more links (and some of those previous links again) to information about this:<br /><br />----<br /><br /><b>Al-Jazeera reporter asks about Shariah-Finance</b>, 2008<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh-RmkD1g84<br /><br />At a briefing opposing <b>the US Treasury's 2008 pro-Sharia-finance "Islamic Finance 101" presentation in Washington D.C.</b>, Frank Gaffney, Robert Spencer, and Warren Manison respond to an Al-Jazeera reporter.<br /><br />----<br /><br /><b>Frank Gaffney: Jihad with Money</b><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66GBDmmy12M<br /><br />A briefing by Frank Gaffney.<br /><br />----<br /><br /><b>SHARIAH FINANCE - USA LAWSUITS AND AIG</b>, 2009<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErG8xfYtJmQ<br /><br />A briefing by Joy Brighton.<br /><br />----<br /><br /><b>Frank Gaffney: Jihad By Other Means</b>, 2010<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wLEvYcmj_Q<br /><br />A briefing by Frank Gaffney. <br /><br />----<br /><br /><b>The Islamic Infiltration, Part 1: Inside Our Government, Armed With Our Secrets (an interview with a U.S. Dept. of Defense analyst and counter-terrorism official requesting anonymity)</b><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFOnv3xiKPU<br /><br /><b>The Islamic Infiltration, Part 2: From Influence to Insurrection (an interview with a former FBI special agent requesting anonymity)</b><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQLIa-p7xNs<br /><br />----<br /><br /><b>Benghazi: US Foreign Policy and the Influence of Shariah Doctrine</b><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sRkbkIuJHw<br /><br />----<br /><br /><b>The Obama administration is complying with, and cooperating with, OIC directives in the United Nations to implement "blasphemy" "laws" to prevent the telling of facts about the actions of the proponents of the Islamic supremacist political movement (the government of Saudi Arabia, the Muslim Brotherhood, the OIC, etc.), and to prevent the telling of facts about the tenets of Islam.</b><br /><br /><b>David Horowitz TV Free Speech vs. Anti Blasphemy The Frontline Battle 2012 - Deborah Weiss</b><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_Zp4ulrO9c<br /><br />A brief by Deborah Weiss.<br /><br /><b>Mightier Pen 2012: The Growing Censorship of Free Speech</b>, 2012<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPtKaUQLZ4g<br /><br />Speakers:<br /><br />Sam Nunberg (Middle East Forum-The Legal Project)<br />Brooke Goldstein (The Lawfare Project, author of "Lawfare: The War Against Free Speech")<br />Andrew McCarthy (U.S. former federal prosecutor)<br /><br /><br /><b>Libel Lawfare: Silencing Criticism of Radical Islam</b>, 2009<br /><br />Part 1: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRvgpHOqzJo" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRvgpHOqzJo</a><br />Part 2: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSUwW35FsCs" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSUwW35FsCs</a><br />Part 3: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay69CmQTeq4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay69CmQTeq4</a><br />Part 4: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k4I-Txr_Lo" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k4I-Txr_Lo</a><br />Part 5: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogjXDTo-VXo" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogjXDTo-VXo</a><br /><br />Conference speakers: Alan Dershowitz, Frank Gaffney, James Taranto, Andy McCarthy, John J. Walsh, Hassan Dai, Joe Kaufman, Marc Lebuis, David Rivkin, Alan Mendoza, Douglas Murray, David Harris, Elizabeth Samson, Barak Seener<br /><br />(And also included is the presentation of award to Timothy Kepshandy of Sidley Austin (a law firm which has given free legal representation to some people, including Hassan Dai and Marc Lebuis, who have targeted by Islamic-supremacist "lawfare".)<br /><br /><b>David Horowitz TV Free Speech vs. Anti Blasphemy The Frontline Battle 2012 - Brooke Goldstein</b><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0Mkmbktw3Y<br /><br />A brief by Brooke Goldstein.<br /><br /><br />(continued)<br />Daniel Bielakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15792786894694523598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-13833435808051390332013-04-08T17:15:16.042-07:002013-04-08T17:15:16.042-07:00Maybe yes maybe no. An awful lot of what goes for ...Maybe yes maybe no. An awful lot of what goes for politics is window dressing. Color me cynical.Empress Trudyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06073538968722986065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-16969124846305628132013-04-08T15:35:11.984-07:002013-04-08T15:35:11.984-07:00"And, in the U.S., it is not governmentally i..."<i>And, in the U.S., it is not governmentally instituted.</i>"<br /><br />Not for lack of trying in places like Arizona, though. See <a href="http://www.philadelphiaweekly.com/news-and-opinion/Black-Republicans-193417571.html" rel="nofollow">the link I provided elsewhere earlier</a> as regards minority Republicans, and their thoughts on the matter.<br /><br />This is actually an issue I'd love to see real debate on, and for all the 'tolerance' certain 'progressive' sites like to claim they stand for, I'm pretty sure that at least in my experience, they stand for no such thing when it comes to Black Republicans like Spence Jr., Harris and Sgt. Mansfield.<br /><br />Even if these folks would also generally agree with them re: Republican intolerance of minorities.<br /><br />Hate goes all ways, and 'progressives' have no shortage of same.<br /><br />"<i>But it is starting to be governmentally instituted in the U.S. -- with the instituting of Shariah compliance in the U.S. governmental legal system (and in, as part of that, the U.S. economic system, and in American cultural institutions).</i>"<br /><br />Once again, I'm gonna need proof for this claim, Daniel.<br /><br />If it's happening, we certainly need to know it. But I just don't see it?JayinPhiladelphiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14556212008313470286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-78939200556938048982013-04-08T15:05:56.272-07:002013-04-08T15:05:56.272-07:00Jay,
And you wrote:
"For all the crap we ca...Jay,<br /><br />And you wrote:<br /><br />"<i>For all the crap we catch (sometimes, unfortunately, well deserved) here in the US, and for all of our faults, we're still a strikingly well-working melting pot society.</i><br /><br />"<i>And we do keep trying.</i><br /><br />"<i>If one is looking for intolerant societies, then one needs to look far away from the US. And in fact, one needs only look at Israel's neighbors for very real, extreme instances of racism, apartheid and intolerance, etc etc</i>...."<br /><br />Exactly.Daniel Bielakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15792786894694523598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-49308600225979746982013-04-08T14:55:54.319-07:002013-04-08T14:55:54.319-07:00Jay,
You wrote:
"Fully agreed, with a coupl...Jay,<br /><br />You wrote:<br /><br />"<i>Fully agreed, with a couple of exceptions. African-Americans certainly weren't considered equal citizens 100 years ago</i>"<br /><br />Yeah, I realized that, and that's why I changed what I wrote to:<br /><br />"<i>Actual multiculturalism has existed in the U.S. for the past forty years -- and has existed in the U.S., to a large degree, for the past over one hundred years. It has so existed naturally -- as a result of what has been the secular open free society of the United States of America -- which has resulted from the nature of the secular democratic system of government of the United States of America as defined by the U.S. Constitution.</i>"<br /><br />And you wrote:<br /><br />"<i>and Hispanic-Americans are still struggling against discrimination today</i>"<br /><br />Unjust discrimination occurs everywhere -- in every country. Against many groups of people. And it occurs less in the U.S. than in almost every other country in the world. And, in the U.S., it is not governmentally instituted. But it is starting to be governmentally instituted in the U.S. -- with the instituting of Shariah compliance in the U.S. governmental legal system (and in, as part of that, the U.S. economic system, and in American cultural institutions).Daniel Bielakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15792786894694523598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-1397090771729893442013-04-08T14:42:32.600-07:002013-04-08T14:42:32.600-07:00You would have to be be seriously understocked in ...You would have to be be seriously understocked in the self respect department if you need to be pumped up about "your" contributions centuries before you were born so as to feel good about yourself especially if it is done by condescending foreigners. This is how trendy smug teachers treated nine year olds back in the early sixties. How many layers of disconnect are there here? Perhaps all that fantasy baiting and transfer explains why so many of those nine year olds ended up in the drug culture a few years later. Perhaps it explains it now.<br /><br />Obama treats Arabs like children. He treats all adults like children but especially Arabs. All leftists do. Having done that can there any surprise when they behave like children? Is Obama the only person in the US who was not prescribed "Lord of the Flies" as a young teenager?<br /><br />Maybe it wasn't in the curriculum where he went to school. <br /><br />geoffffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10056725010151459750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-49584177713925481702013-04-08T14:38:33.336-07:002013-04-08T14:38:33.336-07:00This -
"Actual multiculturalism has existed ...This -<br /><br />"<i>Actual multiculturalism has existed in the U.S. for over one hundred years. It has so existed naturally -- as a result of what has been the secular open free society of the United States of America -- which has resulted from the nature of the secular democratic system of government of the United States of America as defined by the U.S. Constitution.</i>"<br /><br />Very well said, Daniel. Fully agreed, with a couple of exceptions. African-Americans certainly weren't considered equal citizens 100 years ago, and Hispanic-Americans are still struggling against discrimination today, but yeah.<br /><br />It's as Mike noted a few days ago, and also what I think you're getting at here too.<br /><br />For all the crap we catch (sometimes, unfortunately, well deserved) here in the US, and for all of our faults, we're still a strikingly well-working melting pot society.<br /><br />And we do keep trying.<br /><br />If one is looking for intolerant societies, then one needs to look far away from the US. And in fact, one needs only look at Israel's neighbors for very real, extreme instances of racism, apartheid and intolerance, etc etc....JayinPhiladelphiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14556212008313470286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-89516797237111122502013-04-08T14:36:03.586-07:002013-04-08T14:36:03.586-07:00Jay,
I agree, in general, to a degree, with what ...Jay,<br /><br />I agree, in general, to a degree, with what you wrote. But it all stems from what I described above. And, like you wrote: in almost all cases among the members of the general population of the U.S. the anti-Jewish bigotry that is involved is not conscious and is not at the forefront of the resultant and involved other factors of the wrong view, and wrong views, held about the situation. But it all stems from what I described above.<br /><br />And,<br /><br />"Multiculturalism" is a policy of collusion with Islam (a policy developed by Europeans -- to try to show how "good" they are -- out of their feeling humiliation at having been shown to have committed the Holocaust, and out of, as part of that, their feeling malice and resentment toward the Jewish people and trying to prove how "good" they are -- and, involved with that, trying to show how "evil" Jewish people (Israel) are.)<br /><br />"Multiculturalism" is, in essence, a (European-developed) policy of anti-Jewish bigotry -- which results in oppression of, and persecution of, everyone other than Muslims.<br /><br />Actual multiculturalism has existed in the U.S. for the past forty years -- and has existed in the U.S., to a large degree, for the past over one hundred years. It has so existed naturally -- as a result of what has been the secular open free society of the United States of America -- which has resulted from the nature of the secular democratic system of government of the United States of America as defined by the U.S. Constitution.<br /><br />Yet I think that many members of the current young generation in the U.S. view the U.S. as being an oppressive racist fascist country. This view that I think that many members of the current young generation in the U.S. holds is a perverse wrong view. This view has been cultivated as a result of the Soviet "intellectual exchange" propaganda campaign toward U.S. "intellectuals" and academics and journalists throughout several decades, and as a result of propaganda efforts such as those engaged in by the Marxist Frankfurt School ("Critical Theory", "Political Correctness", etc.).<br /><br />If one compares the U.S. to all other countries in the world, U.S. society is the most free society in the world. And U.S. society is among the least racist societies in the world. Americans take for granted the freeness of American society. And Americans take for granted the secular democratic system of government of the United States of America which has allowed and cultivated and been the cause of the freeness of American society. And the secular democratic system of government of the United States of America is now being eroded -- intentionally, by front-groups of, and individual members of, the Muslim Brotherhood and the regime in Iran, and, wittingly and unwittingly by their American "Marxist", "Progressive", and "Liberal", and Republican, allies and colluders.Daniel Bielakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15792786894694523598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-17598188004252849382013-04-08T14:16:06.209-07:002013-04-08T14:16:06.209-07:00Fellow Philadelphian Daniel Pipes weighs in here o...Fellow Philadelphian Daniel Pipes <a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/341274/philadelphia-s-burqa-crisis-daniel-pipes" rel="nofollow">weighs in here</a> on my above point, btw.<br /><br />Here's <a href="http://www.phillymag.com/articles/the-radicals-among-us/" rel="nofollow">another article</a> (from the admittedly anti-urban "Philly" Magazine, but they got things right in that piece for once) backing that up, and covering the murder of Philadelphia police officer <a href="http://www.odmp.org/officer/19359-sergeant-stephen-liczbinski" rel="nofollow">Sgt. Stephen Libczinski</a>, specifically, who was murdered in Port Richmond in 2008 after pulling over suspects in just such a burqa bank robbery.JayinPhiladelphiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14556212008313470286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-40378881459339318572013-04-08T12:46:20.180-07:002013-04-08T12:46:20.180-07:00Anti-Semitism 2.0, by Mudar Zahran
"The conc...<b>Anti-Semitism 2.0, by Mudar Zahran</b><br /><br />"<i>The concept of the 'evil Jew' has made a well-disguised comeback: Criticizing Israel and Zionists is now deemed a legitimate option to cursing Jews and Judaism. Not only is it open, socially acceptable and legal, but it can actually bring prosperity and popularity. This new form of anti-Semitism 2.0 is well-covered-up, harder to trace and poses a much deeper danger to the modern way of life of the civilized world than the earlier crude form of it, as it slowly and gradually works on delegitimizing Jews to the point where it eventually becomes acceptable to target Jews, first verbally, then physically -- all done in a cosmopolitan style where the anti-Semites are well-groomed speakers and headline writers in jackets and ties; and not just Arab, but American and European, from ‘sanitized’ news coverage of the most bloodthirsty radicals, to charges against Israel in which facts are distorted, selectively omitted or simply untrue, as in former President Jimmy Carter's book on Israel.</i><br /><br />"<i>Why would a Palestinian</i>*<i> be writing this? The answer is simple: The Palestinians have been used as fuel for the new form of anti-Semitism; this has hurt the Palestinians and exposed them to unprecedented and purposely media-ignored abuse by Arab governments, including some of those who claim love for the Palestinians, yet in fact only bear hatred to Jews. This has resulted in Palestinian cries for justice, equality, freedom and even basic human rights being ignored while the world getting consumed with delegitimizing Israel from either ignorance or malice.</i><br /><br />"<i>Worse, just as the old form of anti-Semitism has proven itself a threat as poisonous to its supporters, as it was to the Jews, the new form of anti-Semitism 2.0 could prove itself the same -- all the more likely as we see the world tolerating Iran's nuclear ambitions not necessarily out of love for the Mullah's regime, but instead because of mental fixation against Israel.</i><br /><br />"<i>Such bias against Israel cannot be 'accidental' or merely 'unfortunate.' No other nation has received the amount of scrutinizing, criticism, coverage, demonization and delegitimization. In fact the question to be asked is not whether there is bias against Israel; but rather why there is bias against Israel</i> ..."<br /><br /><a href="http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/1979/anti-semitism-20" rel="nofollow">http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/1979/anti-semitism-20</a><br /><br />Note: "Palestinian": 'Palestinian' Arab<br />Daniel Bielakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15792786894694523598noreply@blogger.com