tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post2556296872789473931..comments2024-01-02T02:18:30.960-08:00Comments on Israel Thrives: A Possible New Census Category in the USMike L.http://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-26106381027145199242016-10-07T08:00:07.263-07:002016-10-07T08:00:07.263-07:00Thank G-d neither one of us would ever want to be ...Thank G-d neither one of us would ever want to be "Palestinian."<br /><br />Most Jewish people have far too much integrity to ever want to be a member of such a heinous group... a nationalism born directly out of the Qur'anically-based hatred for the Jewish people.Mike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-62435128955776903142016-10-06T06:55:02.246-07:002016-10-06T06:55:02.246-07:00They are suffering from Islamophobia.
And we could...They are suffering from Islamophobia.<br />And we could go further. Not just offering affirmative preferential treatment of oppressed minorities, but affirmative discrimination of oppressor groups. The first of such groups that comes to mind is the Jews. Jacobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14901811045493439598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-22076500500610251792016-10-05T22:08:39.694-07:002016-10-05T22:08:39.694-07:00Yes, certainly place of origin and/or ethnicity, b...Yes, certainly place of origin and/or ethnicity, but a racial category? And, of course, are people from the Middle East entitled to Affirmative Action programs, and why? Have they suffered from some egregious historical discrimination in this country that has stopped their economic and social advancement? Have they been segregated? Should they get preferential treatment in business loans that, say, an Italian immigrant wouldn't? Black people in this country suffered through slavery and Jim Crow segregation. There is a legacy that we have been trying to correct. What does any of that have to do with recent immigrants? JeffwithaJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07073609950380822171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-20165094681090706982016-10-05T12:47:54.245-07:002016-10-05T12:47:54.245-07:00Well you have to be very suspect of any slice and ...Well you have to be very suspect of any slice and dice the Federal government tells you is in your benefit to comply with. Why? For what? Data is very powerful in anyone's hands, good or bad. Moreover the Federal government is famous for imposing unfunded mandates on the States. To the Federal government it's a form with a checkbox and a vast bureaucracy chartered with gathering and using that data more or less to the detriment of most people. But to the states who have to comply with the results of that data gathering it's expensive and painful. Now websites have to be in Arabic, and voting forms and any other official document. Now public sector employment has to be readjusted. Now we need to change school calendars. And so on and so on. <br /><br />But the piece of that that's most deeply and egregiously missing is 'why'. What is this remedy a fix for? Who is being helped and why? Is there some de jure or de facto gap that's being addressed? Are Egyptians being discriminated and persecuted? Are country clubs not welcoming enough Lebanese Americans? And how much of this real or perceived or agendized activism regards Islam and not place of ancestry at all? Will this new law also by default embrace Indian and Indonesian Muslims? Filipino Muslims? Chinese Muslims? Mexican Muslims? Is a 4th generation German Turk a middle easterner or not? Is Carlos Slim, the richest man in Mexico an oppressed Syrian Lebanese Mexican or just a regular oppressed Mexican? What about Spaniards with Arabic names that go back a thousand years? Does Mali count? It's not North Africa, neither is Senegal or any of the Muslim west African nations. <br /><br /> Empress Trudyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06073538968722986065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-1185476590278095372016-10-05T11:44:59.417-07:002016-10-05T11:44:59.417-07:00Yves Mamou has an article for Gatestone that discu...Yves Mamou has an article for Gatestone that discusses this question in terms of France:<br /><br /><b>"...census questionnaires prohibit any question about race, origin or religion. So in France, it is impossible to know how many Muslims, black people, white people, Catholics, Arabs, Jews, etc. live in the country.<br /><br />This prohibition is based on an old and once-healthy principle to avoid any discrimination in a country where "assimilation" is the rule. Assimilation, French-style, means that any foreigner who wants to live in the country has to copy the behavioral code of local population and marry a native quickly. This assimilation model worked perfectly for people of Spanish, Portuguese or Polish descent. But with Arabs and Muslims, it stopped.<br /><br />Now, however, despite all good intentions, the rule prohibiting collection of data that might lead to discrimination, has become a national security handicap."</b><br /><br />https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9058/france-islamizationMike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-43077116678212855972016-10-05T10:53:55.467-07:002016-10-05T10:53:55.467-07:00How are people from Morocco to Tehran a racial cat...How are people from Morocco to Tehran a racial category? This is an expression of what exactly? Creating new racial categories strikes me as just the sort of thing that keeps "progressives" and racists busy. JeffwithaJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07073609950380822171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-7694128373955460282016-10-04T14:45:51.008-07:002016-10-04T14:45:51.008-07:00The next battleground with federal identity will b...The next battleground with federal identity will be about race and gender as it applies to federal contracting set asides. Today there's very large kitty of Federal contracting set asides for businesses run by or owned by women and minorities. There is so much money in it that the #1 challenge of contract auditors is tracking who IS a bona fide and who is a paper company created by a larger non-set aside firm as a front company to move to the head of the line and/or get a higher payout. <br /><br />(there are qualifying terms in some acquisition programs that also pay MORE to set aside businesses after they've moved to the head of the line. BTW the same thing is true in specific civil service job categories that assign a point system to applicants; 10 pts for veteran status, 10 pts for handicapped, 10 pts for protected class minority and so forth. These adders are put into each civil service exam results to create a ranked list of applicants). <br /><br />But the issue is going to be who IS, black, gay, a woman and so on. We can now declare ourselves we are whatever we like. So I can create a company to bid on Federal contracts and declare myself a gay black native American trans person. Who has the authority to challenge me? If I say I am then I am. It used to be an experiment in trolling to declare myself 'African American' just to see if anyone would challenge me, which technically they can't. But now it becomes an issue of Federal statute. <br /><br />I wonder how MENA will play in that? I suspect people will rush to declare themselves MENA when the Federal government decides to create set asides from them too. <br /><br />There are two issues that have to explored with this - 1) is there in fact defacto descrimination and 2) can there be specific remedy to address it. Because I'm not sold on the medical issue. Why? Because health data is DNA data and that can be collected from anyone at any time regardless of a paper form. The love of my life of 40 years is genetically (partially) 'black' but you would never ever know that from looking at them or investigating their background. If you want to know about their sickle cell related anemia take a cheek swab. Point being that not even 'where you're from' means very much.<br /><br />And here's the important point. When the UN determined who was 'palestinian' they created this bizarre definition of a theoretical person who's male ancestor lived vaguely around the region of Mandatory 'palestine' sometime between 1945 and 1948. Because they say so? No that's going to work for me. Empress Trudyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06073538968722986065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-85805436129703115322016-10-04T12:58:03.014-07:002016-10-04T12:58:03.014-07:00Awesome, Soros and Zukerberg can be "white&qu...Awesome, Soros and Zukerberg can be "white", and Jeff Goldbum a MENA wog.<br />Better yet let's get internal passports with everyone's religion and ethnicity specified on the fifth line. Jacobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14901811045493439598noreply@blogger.com