tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post3229480778964813359..comments2024-01-02T02:18:30.960-08:00Comments on Israel Thrives: Islam, Political Islam, and the Diaspora Jewish DivideMike L.http://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-43619714613751024862013-10-08T09:42:47.783-07:002013-10-08T09:42:47.783-07:00Yes, well, I aim to please.Yes, well, I aim to please.Mike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-71366128894927251292013-10-08T02:18:27.566-07:002013-10-08T02:18:27.566-07:00Really a great post. Good dude. Thanks for sharing...Really a great post. Good dude. Thanks for sharing such an useful information. Very interesting one....... by <a href="http://www.uoptutorial.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=3507" rel="nofollow"><b>MGT 350 Week 3</b></a> provider.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-91830877866283476802013-09-26T13:18:27.006-07:002013-09-26T13:18:27.006-07:00I agree.
It should be clear to all but the most i...I agree.<br /><br />It should be clear to all but the most ideologically blinkered by this point that political Islam... or the <i>Jihad</i>... is a genuine problem that people all over the world are suffering as a result.<br /><br />We don't need to agree on every jot, but I am with you, my man.Mike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-48311099060408667272013-09-26T12:03:32.745-07:002013-09-26T12:03:32.745-07:00Mike -
Not really! I don't feel under siege!...Mike - <br /><br />Not really! I don't feel under siege! I feel pretty confident about Israel's future and that of the West at a time when the Muslim World is imploding under the weight of its hate culture. It bears reminding we didn't pick a fight with them; they picked a fight with us. I am not advocating a Crusade, which is not practical and is not going to get them to abandon their death cult. I am on record as saying we have the duty and the right to defend ourselves from Muslim aggression and to maintain our way of life and to preserve our freedoms. I don't care if our enemy slaughters each other like there's no tomorrow; their internecine feuds are none of our business. But Mike - when they attack us, it becomes our business and we have a right to put an end to their jihad against us! I think this strikes a fair balance. We have no wish to convert or to rule them but at the same time they must stay out of our affairs or face the consequences.NormanFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03365459073293643108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-23105362924739486262013-09-25T22:17:53.160-07:002013-09-25T22:17:53.160-07:00Norman, I disagree.
"You will find there is ...Norman, I disagree.<br /><br /><i><b>"You will find there is not ONE Muslim voice that says the murder of a non-Muslim child is evil!"</b></i><br /><br />I take this as a voice of a man who feels under siege. Their are at least 100 Muslims in the world for every Jew and the history of the Jewish people under Muslim rule has been generally horrendous. Furthermore, the great majority of Muslims throughout the world, particularly in the Middle East, have little sympathy for the movement for Jewish freedom.<br /><br />So, it's not hard to understand why someone whose people come out of a history of abuse would feel this way.<br /><br />Nonetheless, such a statement is unfair.<br /><br />We cannot base the struggle for Jewish civil liberties upon opposition to either Muslims or Islam. It can be based on the very important struggle against political Islam, however.<br /><br />We need to be practical. We need to pick the fights that we can win.<br /><br />I see you as an ally, Norman, and we can agree to disagree, but if you want to pick a fight with the entirety of the Muslim world then it will take considerably further discussion to get me on-board.<br /><br />In the mean time, I just don't want nations based upon Islamic theology to have heavy weaponry anywhere near the Jews of the Middle East.<br /><br />That's the main thing, at least for this moment.<br /><br /><br /><br />Mike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-20004423489861898112013-09-25T21:10:28.965-07:002013-09-25T21:10:28.965-07:00I keep thinking of the British garrison at Rork...I keep thinking of the British garrison at Rork's Drift, South Africa, who held out and defeated a Zulu army that outnumbered them! Mere arithmetic would have told them they no chance. But they chose to fight and ultimately to win!<br /><br />I'm aware the Muslims are more numerous than the Jews! Israel has survived certainly not because numbers favored the Jews. They haven't and never will. The Jews fought because they knew the Arabs would have shown them no mercy had they lost!<br /><br />I expect us to ultimately win the war with Islam though it will not happen in your lifetime or in mine. Its a death cult and we love life. And I have no doubt in my mind that in the long run those who love life win!<br /><br />I lost my family in the Holocaust also so I'm not expecting divine intervention. I do believe though that G-d helps those who help themselves! We are not completely defenseless in the face of savages in this world. And if it should come to the worst, we'll probably destroy the world before we ever agree to become Muslim slaves.NormanFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03365459073293643108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-46888056217905863342013-09-25T20:45:26.804-07:002013-09-25T20:45:26.804-07:00I have to tell you, Jay, this is an exceedingly un...I have to tell you, Jay, this is an exceedingly uncomfortable question to raise... which is why I raise it, <i>natch.</i><br /><br />Some of us don't want to talk about it at all because we think the very question of Islam versus Political Islam and our whole conception of terrorism is racist.<br /><br />Others think that Muslims are the enemy or that Islam, in and of itself, is the problem.<br /><br />I honestly do not have any hard and fast answers, but I certainly think that we can all agree that the politicalization of Islam, as it is rising throughout the Middle East, represents a genuine threat.<br /><br />As Americans we tend to be insular, but look at what is going on just today in Nairobi.<br /><br />And, needless to say, the Jewish state is considered Enemy Number One.<br /><br />We need to recognize this thing and to speak out against it because it's friggin' dangerous as hell.Mike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-28124566881916363912013-09-25T16:38:57.774-07:002013-09-25T16:38:57.774-07:00Though I'd quibble with you slightly on one po...Though I'd quibble with you slightly on one point, in that a very bad strain of Christianity does indeed seem to have a similar influence in Uganda currently, and does demonstrate that political Islam is certainly not the only such potential realistic danger within that realm, I'll mostly agree with the rest of your post.JayinPhiladelphiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14556212008313470286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-86844846955830996352013-09-25T14:13:51.197-07:002013-09-25T14:13:51.197-07:00Well, you know what they say about statistics, and...Well, you know what they say about statistics, and the numbers go way back but one thing is sure; open the paper any day of the week and you'll find people getting killed in the name of Islam. Some days it's s few; other days a few hundred but it's consistent and appalling.Doodadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03349941094682080146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-26812323299382381592013-09-25T13:23:59.087-07:002013-09-25T13:23:59.087-07:00Are you kidding me?!
270 million.
I don't kn...Are you kidding me?!<br /><br />270 <i>million.</i><br /><br />I don't know how accurate that number is, but there is no question that the number is, in the very least, in the tens of millions, if not the hundreds of millions depending on how we count such things.<br /><br />Political Islam is a movement that needs to be stopped, just as the Nazis were stopped and the Klan was stopped.<br /><br />The Obama administration, through its support for this highly racist and violent movement, betrays the very principles that it claims to embody.Mike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-41414789830975577972013-09-25T12:59:44.248-07:002013-09-25T12:59:44.248-07:00A rough estimate of numbers killed by political Is...A rough estimate of numbers killed by political Islam = 270 million.<br /><br />http://www.politicalislam.com/blog/tears-of-jihad/Doodadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03349941094682080146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-88622927915023256762013-09-25T00:40:54.236-07:002013-09-25T00:40:54.236-07:00Thanks for sharing fabulous information. It' s...Thanks for sharing fabulous information. It' s my pleasure to read it.I have also bookmarked you for checking out new posts. by <a href="http://www.uoptutorial.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=303" title="PSY 201" rel="nofollow">PSY 201</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-78166933337166923052013-09-24T20:25:05.847-07:002013-09-24T20:25:05.847-07:00I understand, Norman.
I very much respect you for...I understand, Norman.<br /><br />I very much respect you for standing up and say "NO" to dhimmitude.<br /><br />We need more people with the clarity of sight and the strength to stand up in a public manner and say that we will not allow <i>al-Sharia</i> to govern anywhere in the world because it is a political-religious system that is malicious to pretty much everyone other than Muslim men.<br /><br />But, as a friend and an ally, I want you to consider something with me.<br /><br /><b>1.5 billion Muslims versus maybe 14 million Jews.</b><br /><br />If you are telling me that Islam is implacable and that we are in a war to the death with people who outnumber us over 100 to 1, then what you are telling me is that we are doomed.<br /><br />If this is your vision, how do you expect it to play out?<br /><br />Do you think that G-d will save us?<br /><br />Half of my family was slaughtered in the Holocaust long before I was born, so I expect no such thing.Mike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-45221974940402819602013-09-24T15:00:32.536-07:002013-09-24T15:00:32.536-07:00There is no positive outcome to be expected from p...There is no positive outcome to be expected from people who take their religion as a literal injunction to kill their enemies - moreover, mere numbers has never decided a conflict. We have the duty and the right to resist those who seek to kill us no matter how many of them there are and no matter how hopeless it may seem!<br /><br />Let's point out Islam decrees jihad as an obligatory duty on every Muslim. This is a serious enough problem. Other religions do not exhort their believers to kill every one opposed to them and enslave the rest as Islam does. That's why there are Islamic terrorists and no Jewish, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist or atheist terrorists ravaging the world and disturbing the serenity of mankind.<br /><br />They are war with us and I don't see the battle with Islam ending after 1400 years. It would be preferable if it would disappear but until then we must contain it and fight back against it where its necessary! The only alternative is the death of every non-Muslim in the world and I refuse to accept such an outcome at Muslim hands.<br />NormanFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03365459073293643108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-772235315239860542013-09-24T09:37:25.611-07:002013-09-24T09:37:25.611-07:00Norman, I have two problems with your viewpoint. ...Norman, I have two problems with your viewpoint. One is tactical and the other is conceptual.<br /><br />From a tactical standpoint your view pits 13 million Jews to war against 1.5 billion Muslims. There is no possibility of a positive outcome under any such circumstance.<br /><br />From a conceptual standpoint, it must be understood that all religions contain vile and violent prescriptions within their primary source documents. But as I wrote above, the primary source documents of any religion are only meaningful to the extent that the followers act upon the essential views.<br /><br />Thus,our problem is not with Muslims who do not promote sharia.<br /><br />And that's good because it represents good ground to fight upon. When I look upon that battlefield I see grounds upon which we can win. However blinkered the western left may be concerning political Islam and these various terrorist organizations they would at least agree that they do not want to live under sharia and we can show them how sharia is malicious wherever it is practiced.<br /><br />Any country that adopts sharia would, by definition, be a country at war with the west which is precisely why Obama is such a terrible president. <br /><br />Our goal should be to encourage our politicians to stop funding Islamism and to stop enabling its rise throughout the Middle East.Mike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.com