tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post4303418528725287713..comments2024-01-02T02:18:30.960-08:00Comments on Israel Thrives: The Gibberish Never EndsMike L.http://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-16962164594617446222010-10-05T16:56:49.015-07:002010-10-05T16:56:49.015-07:00I hear you, Karma. And it's only gonna get wor...I hear you, Karma. And it's only gonna get worse as Israelis turn further right (60% in recent polls support building in settlements now after all the bullshite that has gone on.)<br /><br />A lot of it has to do with keeping one's creds in an increasingly far left community. Support Israel and one gets labeled a right winger and Likud supporter. This despite the fact that the Dem party policy remains quite supportive of Israel overall ( aside from the almost insane hatred of the current government.)<br /><br />Interestingly this broadening of the fringe left into the mainstream has taken place as the fringe right has been marginalized for the most part.<br /><br />Richard Baehr suggests:<br /><br />"WHY DOES THE LEFT HATE ISRAEL? <br /><br />I believe there are several reasons:<br />1. It is an easy way to express one's hatred for America. <br />2. Israel is viewed as an outpost of colonialism , and an active practitioner of it.<br />3. Israel is a western nation, and hence can be judged by the left. Israel is not protected by cultural relativism, as the Arabs are.<br />4. Leftist Christian churches can escape any lingering guilt about the Holocaust, by turning Israel into a villain. Some leftist churches hate Israel because they think this will help protect their members in the holy land— in other words they feel threatened.<br />5. Ferocious Muslim hatred of Israel and the Jews reinforces the natural cowardice of many on the left who go along with the Muslims to stay out of their line of fire.<br />6. Jewish leftists are prominent in the anti—Israel movement. This opens the floodgates for everybody else.<br />7. Israel is attacked because the secular left is appalled by the influence of religious settlers and their biblical connections to the land of Israel, and by the support for Israel by evangelical Christians, and Christian Zionists. "<br /><br />http://www.americanthinker.com/2004/01/why_does_the_left_hate_israel.htmlDoodadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-55564077500425792752010-10-05T14:48:33.478-07:002010-10-05T14:48:33.478-07:00Yup.
I was guardedly hopeful about J-Street when ...Yup.<br /><br />I was guardedly hopeful about J-Street when they first organized, but they lost me when they refused to repudiate either the anti-Semitic play "7 Jewish Children," or the insidious Goldstone report.<br /><br />Y'know, Doodad, on the issues I am a liberal, but I sometimes think that many of our fellow Jewish liberals have become so open-minded that their brains have fallen completely out of their skulls.Mike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-31778902382224841542010-10-05T14:06:45.966-07:002010-10-05T14:06:45.966-07:00Here's one for the J-Street lovers among the a...Here's one for the J-Street lovers among the alleged Pro-I's at various blogs. The words of J Street co-founder and advisory board member Daniel Levy <br /><br />"One can be a utilitarian two-stater, in other words think that the practical pragmatic way forward is two states. This is my understanding of the current Hamas position. One can be an ideological two-stater, someone who believes in exclusively the Palestinian self-determination and in Zionism; I don’t believe that it’s impossible to have a progressive Zionism. Or one can be a one-stater. But in either of those outcomes we’re going to live next door to each other or in a one state disposition. And that means wrapping one’s head around the humanity of both sides. I believe the way Jewish history was in 1948 excused – for me, it was good enough for me – an act that was wrong. I don’t expect Palestinians to think that. I have no reason – there’s no reason a Palestinian should think there was justice in the creation of Israel."<br /><br /> an act that was wrong.....gotta love them Pro-Israelis progressives.<br /><br />http://www.mererhetoric.com/2010/10/05/j-street-co-founder-daniel-levy-israel%E2%80%99s-creation-an-act-that-was-wrong/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MereRhetoric+%28Mere+Rhetoric%29Doodadnoreply@blogger.com