tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post431625023399317037..comments2024-01-02T02:18:30.960-08:00Comments on Israel Thrives: ZOA: Condemns Morocco For Shameful Treatment of Israeli Athletes Mike L.http://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-53184312158480913922015-05-28T13:02:50.285-07:002015-05-28T13:02:50.285-07:00The EU banned Israel from participating in events ...The EU banned Israel from participating in events in the EU for the Jewish National Fund; which itself is Israeli. The EU will not be happy until every last Jew on earth is dead. Period. Empress Trudyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06073538968722986065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-75000182913027418312015-05-28T09:42:12.305-07:002015-05-28T09:42:12.305-07:00You might want to contact IsraellyCool about that....You might want to contact IsraellyCool about that.<br /><br />Going deeper into the matter, it is true that a large share of the membership in the progressive movement is Jewish and at least some of those, such as yourself, are vocal supporters of Israel. The question is what percentage of Jews involved in the Left are supporters of Israel and what percentage are in the mold of Jeremy Ben Ami?Sar Shalomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12249389597567433544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-57712630571186239312015-05-28T08:26:40.989-07:002015-05-28T08:26:40.989-07:00Sar Shalom,
the other side - our side - did not h...Sar Shalom,<br /><br />the other side - our side - did not have to show up because we were already there to begin with.<br /><br />I don't know about you, but I definitely told many people on the Left, both on-line and in the real world, that if the movement continued to accept anti-Semitic anti-Zionists as a part of the general coalition that they are going to lose the Jews.<br /><br />This is clearly what is happening, although less so in the US, apparently.<br /><br />Pro-Israel types did not, from what I can tell, start off by ignoring progressive causes.<br /><br />It is the progressives, themselves, who are driving us away from those causes.Mike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-58433514712719996952015-05-28T07:46:43.489-07:002015-05-28T07:46:43.489-07:00Oh look - It's the Jews fault
http://www.time...Oh look - It's the Jews fault<br /><br />http://www.timesofisrael.com/indicted-fifa-official-warner-blamed-zionism-for-undoing-in-2011/<br /><br />Former FIFA vice president Jack Warner, arrested in Trinidad and Tobago on Wednesday on bribery charges as part of a massive bust of top soccer officials, previously blamed “Zionism” for a bribery scandal which saw him forced from the world soccer body in 2011. <br />Empress Trudyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06073538968722986065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-48866580947452186742015-05-28T06:40:07.705-07:002015-05-28T06:40:07.705-07:00Sar Shalom,
I'd be very interested to read th...Sar Shalom,<br /><br />I'd be very interested to read that but I only have a mobile ( cell) phone internet connection, and that site has never properly worked on it. If anyone could be bothered to précis that piece, that would be brilliant.<br />khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04651898817618608477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-73578791265205761152015-05-28T05:45:03.389-07:002015-05-28T05:45:03.389-07:00Unfortunately, the FIFA executives who were arrest...Unfortunately, the FIFA executives who were arrested have no connection to those trying to do in Israel. In a just world, the PA would be thrown out of FIFA for politicizing the sport so brazenly, but ...Sar Shalomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12249389597567433544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-10852274000877211362015-05-28T05:41:09.442-07:002015-05-28T05:41:09.442-07:00All of you might want to check out the latest inst...All of you might want to check out the latest installment on mistakes made by Israel-advocates over at IsraellyCool (http://www.israellycool.com/2015/05/26/the-biggest-mistakes-pro-israel-advocates-make-6-how-to-win-friends-in-order-to-influence-people/ ). Basically, what the article is getting across is that pro-Israel types have largely ignored the major progressive causes with the result that those causes were as hospitable to the Palestinians' sophistry as an antibiotic sterilized gut is to C. Difficile (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clostridium_difficile_colitis ). Their buying in to the Palestinians' sophistry is not an indication of anything inherent in these movements, rather it is a result of their only hearing one side of the story because the other side didn't show up.Sar Shalomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12249389597567433544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-49370030601542998752015-05-28T00:52:30.961-07:002015-05-28T00:52:30.961-07:00Jeff,
That's a terrific piece.
I'm a big ...Jeff,<br /><br />That's a terrific piece.<br />I'm a big fan of worldaffairsjournal but hadn't gone that far back in their archive.<br />I don't think the appalling nature of Chomsky's influence can be overstated.<br />It is like a cancer that has invaded the political, cultural landscape.<br />Impossible at this point to know how that can be countered. Or if.<br /><br />Am now going to try and get hold of the book that article was based on.<br />Thanks!<br /><br />And yes, I, too, have a lot of time for Brendan O'Neill. He is one of very few who speaks up. And always interestingly.<br />I'm presuming you follow him at Spiked online. They tend to be interesting on a lot of subjects. Controversial sometimes, but interesting.<br />khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04651898817618608477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-72228724741204472762015-05-27T23:45:37.036-07:002015-05-27T23:45:37.036-07:00I do like Brendan O'Neill's observations o...I do like Brendan O'Neill's observations of anti-Semitic, anti-Israel sickness. This article was no exception. He first posits that the "progressive" left is heading toward anti-Semitism and then goes on convincingly to show that in many ways it is already there, whether or not they are in denial or just not willing to admit it. <br /><br />Here's one for you concerning where many of their ideas come from:<br /><br />http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/blog/michael-j-totten/noam-chomsky-last-totalitarian<br /><br /><br />Tell me what you think.<br /><br />JeffwithaJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07073609950380822171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-11569573378367087852015-05-27T22:41:29.160-07:002015-05-27T22:41:29.160-07:00Mike,
Would you read the link to Brendan O'Ne...Mike,<br /><br />Would you read the link to Brendan O'Neill's' blog that I posted below.<br />I really think that it is extremely important.<br />And covers something that is not usually discussed. Something vital.<br />khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04651898817618608477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-67516480292375036642015-05-27T22:37:42.652-07:002015-05-27T22:37:42.652-07:00What's. Interesting about his thesis is that i...What's. Interesting about his thesis is that it is much more than about Israel, or muslim antisemitism. It is about a much more general, ' structural ' way of thinking that has become commonplace on the left. It helps to explain the kind of thinking and language that is pervading public discourse.<br />And why it is so dangerous.khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04651898817618608477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-13456830504788421892015-05-27T22:14:46.932-07:002015-05-27T22:14:46.932-07:00Jeff,
I remember this blog from Brendan O' Ne...Jeff,<br /><br />I remember this blog from Brendan O' Neill in the Telegraph. It was in their blog section ( they don't do blogs anymore) in July 2014.<br /><br />It is really helpful, I think, as a shorthand look at what is happening.<br /><br />http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/brendanoneill2/100281417/is-the-left-anti-semitic-sadly-it-is-heading-that-way/<br /><br /><br />If there are any problems with the link, go to telegraph blogs archive, and search : Brendan O' Neill - 2014, July.<br /><br />Be interested to know what you think.khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04651898817618608477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-64849127601210258252015-05-27T21:10:22.902-07:002015-05-27T21:10:22.902-07:00But I don't think this is solely to do with Mu...But I don't think this is solely to do with Muslims. JeffwithaJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07073609950380822171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-9766869301738451312015-05-27T21:08:19.954-07:002015-05-27T21:08:19.954-07:00Me 2.Me 2.JeffwithaJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07073609950380822171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-45794717233470109192015-05-27T21:06:19.278-07:002015-05-27T21:06:19.278-07:00k,
And do remember to read the BTL comments, suc...k,<br /> And do remember to read the BTL comments, such as this gem from "Jet Maier:"<br />"No, it seems to be a constant that Israel thinks they control what the rest of the world does. Lefties don't hate Jews. They just refuse to submit to Jewish enslavement."<br /><br />JeffwithaJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07073609950380822171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-4527940506521908892015-05-27T20:38:35.937-07:002015-05-27T20:38:35.937-07:00k,
Here's part of the reason why Europe is not...k,<br />Here's part of the reason why Europe is not good for Jews:<br /><br />http://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-embassy-slams-outrageous-dutch-textbook/JeffwithaJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07073609950380822171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-13567423028666772332015-05-27T20:25:53.366-07:002015-05-27T20:25:53.366-07:00It sounds like Ralphdog (what does that choice of ...It sounds like Ralphdog (what does that choice of moniker say about Ralph?)... <br />I'll start again: It sounds like Ralphdog's mind has been converted into a gigantic walled prison with all points of entry controlled by "Israel." <br /><br />JeffwithaJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07073609950380822171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-60810948185286294492015-05-27T20:17:57.778-07:002015-05-27T20:17:57.778-07:00Mike,
Because you've read Ruth Wisse, you kn...Mike,<br /> Because you've read Ruth Wisse, you know that anti-Semitism is about much more than Jews, which means that what is happening is about more than Israel. In fact, and correct me if I am wrong, but I believe she says that it's not even primarily about Jews. The liberal west is under threat.<br /> The erosion of freedom on college campuses, for example, began well before any intifadas and before even anti-Israel sickness was the main political cause on campuses. What I'm saying is that the anti-Zionist movement, laughably called pro-Palestinian, is a symptom of rot.JeffwithaJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07073609950380822171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-21729060023574603992015-05-27T19:52:13.623-07:002015-05-27T19:52:13.623-07:00Progressives never really cared for Jews. Now with...Progressives never really cared for Jews. Now with the number of muslims in the US rapidly rising they don't have to pretend anymore. 12 Democrat senators signed a petition to admit 65K Syrian refugees. Within 10 years we'll have places in this country where you'll get killed for being a Jew (think Ramallah). Jacobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14901811045493439598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-11725677562868798962015-05-27T15:02:11.471-07:002015-05-27T15:02:11.471-07:00Love it!!!!! Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!Love it!!!!! Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!Doodadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03349941094682080146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-201109274569601902015-05-27T13:06:51.491-07:002015-05-27T13:06:51.491-07:00Yes. However, it's easier to be brave in a cou...Yes. However, it's easier to be brave in a country like America. <br />You are probably right about Europe. <br />But many of us, even if we wanted to, couldn't gain entry to the US or Australia.<br />And, as I said, if Tony Abbott loses the next election - entirely possible - things in Australia will change. The Australian left are seriously unpleasant on these issues.Seriously unpleasant.<br />Not many options, really.<br />khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04651898817618608477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-13251358415350186002015-05-27T12:41:10.242-07:002015-05-27T12:41:10.242-07:00Yes. They have by their actions and inactions &quo...Yes. They have by their actions and inactions " green- lighted" this all around the world.<br /><br />When the world sees America will no longer comfortably support and protect Israel, all bets are off. <br />I'm totally pessimistic. This can only get worse.khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04651898817618608477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-62205153529186426832015-05-27T12:36:12.015-07:002015-05-27T12:36:12.015-07:00Left out New Zealand's John Key, also a conser...Left out New Zealand's John Key, also a conservative.khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04651898817618608477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-89882191462842340732015-05-27T12:29:17.931-07:002015-05-27T12:29:17.931-07:00What much of the Left thinks of the Jews in the Mi...What much of the Left thinks of the Jews in the Middle East:<br /><br /><i><b>"Yes, by all means. When all of Palestine has been (1+ / 0-)<br /><br />converted into a gigantic walled prison with all points of entry controlled by Israel, with access to food and water limited to somewhere between starvation and subsistence and with assassination via helicopter gunships or airstrikes by an occupying power a constant threat, let's shine a light on the bad behavior of some of the inmates of this massive prison. Because that's clearly the most important thing going on."<br /><br />by Ralphdog on Wed May 27, 2015 at 11:35:15 AM PDT</b></i><br /><br /><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/05/27/1388113/-Amnesty-International-Hamas-tortured-and-killed-Palestinians" rel="nofollow">Amnesty International: Hamas tortured and killed Palestinians</a><br /><br />"Palestine" is a gigantic walled prison?<br /><br />Where do they get this nonsense?<br /><br />"all points of entry controlled by Israel"<br /><br />Uhh, Jordan? Egypt?<br /><br />"with access to food and water limited to somewhere between starvation and subsistence"<br /><br />They just make shit up in order to demean and denigrate and create hatred for Jews.<br /><br />The fact of the matter is that Arabs in both Gaza and Judea and Samaria have a quality of life comparable, if not generally superior to, Arabs within Arab dominated countries.<br /><br />"assassination via helicopter gunships or airstrikes by an occupying power a constant threat"<br /><br />I have to say, those are some kind-of evil Jews. What he should have said, if he really wanted to bring the point home, is "assassination <i>of children</i> via helicopter gunships or airstrikes..."<br /><br />We all know how those Jews love to kill children.<br /><br /><i>This</i> is the kind of thing that we get from the progressive-left and, yet, they still insist that we have a moral imperative to support them and their political party.<br /><br />The arrogance and injustice of it is simply unbelievable.Mike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-9204854515088718242015-05-27T12:21:14.950-07:002015-05-27T12:21:14.950-07:00Yes. But importantly, that's why there is no a...Yes. But importantly, that's why there is no answer to it. It serves such a useful purpose that there can be no conceivable reason for it to be discarded.<br /><br />And with more globalisation, more countries, even if not antisemitic themselves, will have to fall in line on Israel / Palestine to be acceptable to their new peer groups. Already are doing so.<br /><br />There's an interesting article in Tablet magazine today that goes into that.<br />Sorry, I don't have the link right now.<br />But it's easy to look up.<br /><br />It's looking very, very bad. All round.<br />Sinister.<br />Really!khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04651898817618608477noreply@blogger.com