tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post4331239226333622042..comments2024-01-02T02:18:30.960-08:00Comments on Israel Thrives: Objections: Fizziks and ReuvenMike L.http://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-10732548860152967712011-11-06T22:34:32.919-08:002011-11-06T22:34:32.919-08:00As a first thought, I think fizziks understates th...As a first thought, I think fizziks understates the problem and you overstate it.<br /><br />I saw how he/she plead with Lefty, as if some of these people had an open mind, which they do not.<br /><br />Still, the need to confront the activists remains, even if outnumbered, as there are many who lurk who support Israel, even if they do not speak out.<br /><br />The battleground is not a bunch of anonymous bloggers at DKos and the like, but inside the universities where one voice predominates. <br /><br />Dershowitz at The New Republic and the latest on Pappe, both mentioned at EoZ, will hopefully open more eyes and bring more balance into the fray.oldschooltwentysixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15672887176887940797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-2015917720961613422011-11-06T22:20:27.088-08:002011-11-06T22:20:27.088-08:00If I could sum up what I think your argument is, i...If I could sum up what I think your argument is, in a nutshell, it would be this:<br /><br />"Some Democrats are Progressives, and some Progressives are antisemites/antizionists, therefore Jews should abandon the Democratic Party."<br /><br />To me it just doesn't follow. Couldn't we make the same leap:<br /><br />"Some Republicans are Paulbots and many Paulbots are antisemitites/antizionists, therefore Jews should abandon the Republican party."<br /><br />How is that any different? If we can't vote for Republicans or Democrats, how will our political muscle be flexed?<br /><br />My position is this: As long as the Democrats support us on the issues we care about, we should vote for them. And the legislative and rhetorical record of the Democratic party on supporting Israel and Jews is superb! You mention Kucinich - he is the one possible exception, out of 300 Democratic Congressmen and Senators right now, and he is going to lose his next primary, partially because of that. Other than that insignificant example, the Democratic Platform and elected officials are 100% pro-Israel. That's an alliance worth sticking with.fizzikshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12946516712656954193noreply@blogger.com