tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post4921314121845312259..comments2024-01-02T02:18:30.960-08:00Comments on Israel Thrives: Savages Go Nuts in the United StatesMike L.http://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-26581839011553033722013-07-18T08:24:38.953-07:002013-07-18T08:24:38.953-07:00Just don't call me a Ukrainian-American becaus...Just don't call me a Ukrainian-American because then you'll have a fight on your hands!<br /><br />:O)Mike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-58350016375784957892013-07-18T06:16:19.721-07:002013-07-18T06:16:19.721-07:00"If you check back you'll see we have he ..."If you check back you'll see we have he same thing in Australia"<br /><br />Okay.<br /><br />"and I don't like it."<br /><br />Okay.<br /><br />And I understand your concerns.<br /><br />And I realize that the ethnicity/nationality thing is blurred -- especially recently -- in recent times -- with people being able to travel to other countries so quickly and with people therefore immigrating to other countries so much and, as part of that, intermarrying so much.<br /><br />And I think that maybe rather than using the hyphenated thing it may be more appropriate to use more clear definitions or clear explanations.<br /><br />But I'm sleep deprived right now so I think it's best if I don't write anymore now.<br /><br />But, in any case,<br /><br />Best wishes.Daniel Bielakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15792786894694523598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-69972127182619879682013-07-18T05:09:16.524-07:002013-07-18T05:09:16.524-07:00If you check back you'll see we have he same t...If you check back you'll see we have he same thing in Australia and I don't like it. If you are born here you are Australian full stop. As I pointed out my kids would be<br />Russian/Polish/Spanish/Dutch/English/Australian.<br /><br />What further annoys me is the fact the country of birth is the last and would appear to be to be the least important.<br /><br />I say I am Australian. I then get "You have an English accent so you must be and English/Australian" "No I am Australian."<br /><br />Maybe I should say Russian/Polish/Spanish/English/Australian?Shirl in Ozhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08145644692590907775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-17275662632167417832013-07-18T05:00:49.357-07:002013-07-18T05:00:49.357-07:00Hyphenation of ethnicity with American nationality...Hyphenation of ethnicity with American nationality: It's just a short-hand form of reference: At least that's what I've used it as. And I've used it mainly in writing -- in writing about these political issues -- the political issues that have been discussed in this forum. Daniel Bielakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15792786894694523598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-33596010632342702372013-07-18T04:30:39.590-07:002013-07-18T04:30:39.590-07:00Shirl,
Saying "Black people" doesn'...Shirl,<br /><br />Saying "Black people" doesn't necessarily mean American people. Saying "Black people" could refer to Black people from/in Africa. So I wrote African-American. I now realize that I could have said "American Black people" or "Black American people", but I didn't formulate that concept when I wrote what I wrote (because I was under stress when I wrote what I wrote, because the OCD that I have makes it stressful and difficult for me to communicate in writing), and when I wrote what I wrote I felt that probably what was the most appropriate thing for me to write was "African-American".<br /><br />And I felt uneasy about saying "White". I felt like I should have said something such as what I now realize is "ethnically European" (but I was under stress because of the OCD that have and therefore didn't formulate that concept).<br /><br />And these things are a hodgepodge of tangled stuff that is being construed at this time in the West by people in the West. These things are classifications that aren't really important, I think.<br /><br />And,<br /><br />I agree with what Jay wrote about the hyphenation of ethnicities with American nationality.<br /><br />I think that America is unique in this. There is no official default ethnicity in America. Everyone feels free to identify as being from the ethnic heritage that they are from. And, at the same time, everyone identifies as being the same nationality -- American. Everyone feels American. At least that's the way it has been, at least for most people. Different ethnicities, different cultures (in certain "superficial" aspects -- food, clothing, dialect, etc.), mixing together to some degrees, and sharing with each other to some degrees; and, in certain "superficial" cultural aspects (clothing, language, etc.), mainly adhering to certain "superficial" aspects of West-European-derived culture (clothing, language, etc.); and adhering to one set of essential cultural values -- Judeo-Christian West-European liberal democratic values -- American values; and one national identity -- American.<br /><br />And, by the way, the hyphenated term that would be applied to ethnically Jewish American people (whether ethnically Jewish-Polish, or ethnically Jewish-German, or any other Jewish mixed ethnicity), and that has been applied to ethnically Jewish American people (whether ethnically Jewish-Polish, or ethnically Jewish-German, or any other Jewish mixed ethnicity -- which almost all Jewish people are), is Jewish-American.<br /><br />But I think that the current surge of the so-called "multiculturalism" rhetoric ideology has produced what which I think is, among some American people, a backlash against the hyphenation of ethnicities with American nationality.<br />Daniel Bielakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15792786894694523598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-53270286514680149362013-07-18T02:10:00.699-07:002013-07-18T02:10:00.699-07:00Sorry Jay. I can't stand this hyphenated race ...Sorry Jay. I can't stand this hyphenated race thing. The American Blacks are American. The same as I am English. I am not Polish/Russian/English.<br /><br />I am far from alone in my thoughts and there is certainly a big push to do away with it.Shirl in Ozhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08145644692590907775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-45615446412393091872013-07-17T22:46:09.431-07:002013-07-17T22:46:09.431-07:00Gonna disagree with you here. African-American is...Gonna disagree with you here. African-American is a well-established identification of an ethnicity within our melting pot nation. The term doesn't mean either / or. Rather, it signifies that they are both. They are ethnically / racially African, and nationally American.<br /><br />What's wrong with that?<br /><br />On my mother's side, I have cousins who are African-American and Hispanic-American.<br /><br />My daughter would be well within her rights to call herself a Filipina-American, as her mother is.<br /><br />This is one of the beautiful things about America many of us here cherish. It isn't nonsense.<br /><br />To each their own, is how I would view it. As long as any given person isn't waging war on our country or society...JayinPhiladelphiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14556212008313470286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-59450150153135706282013-07-17T21:51:34.004-07:002013-07-17T21:51:34.004-07:00Daniel thank you for the THE NAZIS AND THE PALESTI...Daniel thank you for the THE NAZIS AND THE PALESTINIAN MOVEMENT linkShirl in Ozhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08145644692590907775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-34115582092334054492013-07-17T21:48:46.036-07:002013-07-17T21:48:46.036-07:00This African-American nonsense incenses me. They...This African-American nonsense incenses me. They are either African or American and seeing as to how they are now so any generations removed from Africa, I think they should be plain American and I don't give a hoot as to what the skin colour is.<br /><br />We get here Italian/Australian. Greek/Australian. If you are born here you are Australian.<br /><br />Just imagine this, my children could well be Russian/Polish/Spanish/Dutch/English/Australian. To think my grandchildren can add Hungarian (heaven forbid) to that list.Shirl in Ozhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08145644692590907775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-31427468559362562852013-07-17T21:41:32.982-07:002013-07-17T21:41:32.982-07:00Correction to wrong link which I listed in my prev...Correction to wrong link which I listed in my previous comment:<br /><br />Afterburner with Bill Whittle: It's a Miracle!<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXEoQJ7ZMZs<br /><br />----<br /><br />But again:<br /><br /><b>THE NAZIS AND THE PALESTINIAN MOVEMENT</b><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_abGQY-1qoMDaniel Bielakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15792786894694523598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-60483625511144321042013-07-17T21:26:58.735-07:002013-07-17T21:26:58.735-07:00Correction to, and clarification of, some things t...Correction to, and clarification of, some things that I wrote in my previous message:<br /><br />What I meant, in my previous comment, is that:<br /><br />In the past, because I was ignorant and naive [not because I was deluded], I ideologically supported Ralph Nader.<br /><br />In the past, because I was ignorant and naive [not because I was deluded], I viewed Noam Chomsky as being a truth-teller.<br /><br />In the past, because I was ignorant and naive and deluded, I falsely "confessed" to fictitious supposed "crimes of Israel".<br /><br />----<br /><br />And,<br /><br />I'm aware that anti-Black bigotry today comes from all quarters, including, from, of course, some people who are members of the political Right. But the amount and degree of anti-Black bigotry that comes from the political Right today is nowhere near what the members of the contemporary Left think that it is and what the members of the political Left propagate lies which intend to make it seem that it is. And the intended and actual political policies of the political Left are more harmful to African-American people than is what is my understanding of what are the intended political policies of the contemporary Conservative movement (which, by the way, is, in general, a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism" rel="nofollow">Classical Liberal</a> political movement).<br /><br />And it is not anti-Black bigotry that is the most detrimental bigotry that exists in Western societies today, and it is not anti-Black bigotry that is the most detrimental and most pervasive bigotry that exists in the world today. And it is among the political Left that the most detrimental bigotry that exists in Western societies today and that is the most detrimental and most pervasive bigotry that exists in the world today - anti-Jewish bigotry -- most resides in Western societies today. And it is the political Left today that is the most bigoted and the most totalitarian (and, as part of that, the most ignorant and the most arrogant and the most misinformed) large political group in Western societies.<br /><br />----<br /><br />Again:<br /><br /><b>THE NAZIS AND THE PALESTINIAN MOVEMENT</b><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_abGQY-1qoM<br /><br />----<br /><br />By the way, here is Bill Whittle, a highly regarded spokesperson of the American contemporary Conservative movement:<br /><br />GAY MARRIAGE (Virtual Press Conference)<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAbzWiYPv6k<br /><br />Bill Whittle on holy war against Israel ( & liberals' unwillingness to acknowledge & confront it)<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm20dlibAGk<br /><br />And, by the way, Bill Whittle on Obama:<br /><br />Afterburner with Bill Whittle: It's a Miracle!<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAbzWiYPv6k<br /><br />And Bill Whittle on the American mainstream media’s libelous coverage of the Tea Party movement (and on "Political Correctness" and the Marxist Frankfurt School):<br /><br />MUST SEE Political Correctness Exposed! Marxism Communism Frankfurt School: End of Freedom<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhugUzUuPkE<br /><br />But this is just an aside.<br /><br />----<br /><br />Again, what is most important is this:<br /><br /><b>THE NAZIS AND THE PALESTINIAN MOVEMENT</b><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_abGQY-1qoM<br />Daniel Bielakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15792786894694523598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-22423546108077667122013-07-17T14:17:51.403-07:002013-07-17T14:17:51.403-07:00Dan,
"I find it shameful and see in all this...Dan,<br /><br /><b><i>"I find it shameful and see in all this the rise of a new fascism, a new Nazism. A fascism, a Nazism, that much more grim and revolting because it is conducted and nourished by those who hypocritically pose as do-gooders, progressives..."</i></b><br /><br />One thing that it is important to keep in mind is that the original Nazis, the National Socialists, were in fact highly idealistic as a group.<br /><br />They also believed that they were doing what was in the very best interests of their own people and, much like progressive-left anti-Zionists today, blamed the Jewish collective for a whole variety of crimes and sins and made-up abominations.<br /><br />Progressive-left anti-Zionists today, like Choomin, are not Nazis in the sense that they are not members of the National Socialist German Workers Party, but they are "Nazis" in the sense that they fill the role of contemporary Jew Haters through creating and fostering violent hatred toward the Jewish people.<br /><br />Choomin is not an actual Nazi, but for all intents and purposes he might as well be.<br /><br />And with that Choomin's banning goes back into effect.<br /><br />That may seem rather capricious, but thankfully this is my joint and I am under no obligation to publish everyone and anyone who crawls out of the woodwork.<br />Mike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-15802142033116842122013-07-17T13:54:36.534-07:002013-07-17T13:54:36.534-07:00"Psychological projection: The attribution of..."Psychological projection: The attribution of one's own attitudes, feelings, or suppositions to others."<br /><br />By the way, in the past, when I was ignorant and naive and deluded, I ideologically supported Ralph Nader. And, by the way, in the past, when I was ignorant and naive and deluded, I viewed Noam Chomsky as being a truth-teller. And, by the way, in the past, when I was ignorant and naive and deluded, I sought out, and tried to find solace in viewing interactions in, and supported, "Palestinian"/Israeli - Arab/Jewish -- so-called "dialog groups" / so-called "Peace groups" (in which, by the way, the Arab members of those groups emotively and sanctimoniously libeled Israel, and in which the Jewish members of those groups expressed empathy and compassion for the Arab members of those groups and falsely "confessed" to the alleged "crimes of Israel" and supported Arab members of those groups libeling of Israel). And, by the way, in the past, when I was ignorant and naive and deluded, I falsely "confessed" to fictitious supposed "crimes of Israel".<br /><br />And by the way, I still feel compassion for, in general, the conglomerate group of Arab people who are now called the "Palestinians" -- the 'Palestinian' Arab people.<br /><br />And, by the way, on another note, many times when I heard Martin Luther King's "I have a dream speech" speech I felt like crying. I felt like crying in sympathy with the speaking of Martin Luther King's speech and with the words of Martin Luther King's speech.<br /><br />And, I, now, still feel compassion for African-American people in general -- even though the members of the leadership of the African-American community are, in general, now corrupt and bigoted anti-Jewish and bigoted anti-White, and even though much of the African-American community is bigoted anti-Jewish. African-American people are in a difficult situation, and, in many cases, are suffering, and I feel compassion for them. African-American people, in very many cases, are very ignorant. African-American people are being used and manipulated by their own leaders and, most influentially, by the corrupt bigoted criminally negligent and deceiving contemporary American mainstream news mass media and White bigoted contemporary "Progressives".<br /><br />GeneralChoomin, go know yourself.<br /><br />"I find it shameful and see in all this the rise of a new fascism, a new Nazism. A fascism, a Nazism, that much more grim and revolting because it is conducted and nourished by those who hypocritically pose as do-gooders, progressives, communists, pacifists, Catholics or rather Christians, and who have the gall to label a warmonger anyone like me who screams the truth. ..."<br /><br />-- Oriana Fallaci, "Vergognosi gli attacchi a Israele" ("Shameful Attacks on Israel") -- http://www.oerby.dk/sider/Oriana%20Fallaci.htm<br /><br />A documentary:<br /><br /><b>THE NAZIS AND THE PALESTINIAN MOVEMENT</b><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_abGQY-1qoMDaniel Bielakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15792786894694523598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-45659818783011309662013-07-17T08:31:58.283-07:002013-07-17T08:31:58.283-07:00All he can do is run, dodge and deflect because he...All he can do is run, dodge and deflect because he has no points to make of his own. This juvenile fool is only here to carry out his favorite internet pastime, which is harassing Jews. What a sad life he must lead.JayinPhiladelphiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14556212008313470286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-55933936264165177952013-07-17T08:29:54.327-07:002013-07-17T08:29:54.327-07:00You're not even putting your heart into your t...You're not even putting your heart into your trolling anymore, Choomin. This is an exceptionally poor performance.JayinPhiladelphiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14556212008313470286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-61816132285294510522013-07-17T08:17:43.752-07:002013-07-17T08:17:43.752-07:00What we are seeing is the way that once prominent ...What we are seeing is the way that once prominent political movements, like the Civil Rights Movement in the United States, maintain a degree of power through the manipulation of the general population.<br /><br />It's not cynical, by the way. For example, I do not believe for one moment that Jesse Jackson is in it just for the money. He was there, after all, when Martin Luther King got shot. <br /><br />But times change and political movements sometimes outlive their value. The US today is, in fact, among the least racist countries on the entire planet. We have come a very long way in a very short period of time, but those who have built their careers on the Civil Rights Movement are not capable of acknowledging that.<br /><br />But what matters even more than that is that people, such as myself, who grew up nodding our heads at the platitudes of the movement cannot easily give it up. Because our sympathies have become so ingrained it is very easy to get people to jump like trained seals at the blow of a whistle.<br /><br />None of us really know what happened at the moment of confrontation between Zimmerman and Martin, but when civil rights leadership scream to the heavens that this is a case of a young black man being murdered by a white racist for no other reason than that he was black, we definitely stand up and take notice.<br /><br />All I can say is, thank G-d <i>Zimmerman</i> wasn't Jewish! Can you imagine the circus if he had been? <br /><br />It gives me the willies just thinking about it.Mike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-56926032894854929502013-07-17T08:07:22.423-07:002013-07-17T08:07:22.423-07:00And you have run from the points made repeatedly, ...And you have run from the points made repeatedly, leaving us with prejudiced standard fare.oldschooltwentysixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15672887176887940797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-39097636339845978062013-07-17T08:04:35.031-07:002013-07-17T08:04:35.031-07:00Better than the racism of the anti-racist, authori...Better than the racism of the anti-racist, authoritarian critical theorists that you appear to exemplify, along with the standard dose of moral superiority, that hurts most people besides themselves.oldschooltwentysixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15672887176887940797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-33746131918224909182013-07-17T00:54:36.941-07:002013-07-17T00:54:36.941-07:00Living on the other side of the world I cannot fat...Living on the other side of the world I cannot fathom out how the American mind thinks.Why such a to-do about race and/or colour?<br /><br />A man stood trial for an offence. He was acquitted after a fair trial by a panel of his peers. He was found to be innocent of that crime.<br /><br />I just do not understand the logic behind this rioting. It doesn't matter what colour, race, creed, religion, nationality the parties were. The guy was found to be innocent of the charge.<br /><br />That's it finished.Shirl in Ozhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08145644692590907775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-44246885724646287492013-07-17T00:16:07.032-07:002013-07-17T00:16:07.032-07:00Has anyone been murdered in this murderous violenc...Has anyone been murdered in this murderous violence yet? LOL the only way you can even argue is with wild exaggerations. Since by creating straw men you don't need to argue about my actual points.<br /><br />GeneralChoominhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08645913957153091924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-22478082095747227792013-07-17T00:13:41.809-07:002013-07-17T00:13:41.809-07:00No Jay is wrong (as usual). This is a blog for th...No Jay is wrong (as usual). This is a blog for those times when stormfront is down so that super racists like Jay and his friends can post garbage about "savages" going "nuts".<br /><br />This blog can only be sustained through old European and English imperialist racism. That's the only way they can justify their ideas and opinions on events. GeneralChoominhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08645913957153091924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-40404571212538351512013-07-16T22:27:11.910-07:002013-07-16T22:27:11.910-07:00I think you should expand your thesis into a more ...I think you should expand your thesis into a more sensible form, or pull a 'your namesake.'<br /><br />This blog is for reasonable discussion of serious issues, not racist-tinged one liners.JayinPhiladelphiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14556212008313470286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-17981371886483084212013-07-16T22:11:16.022-07:002013-07-16T22:11:16.022-07:00Why are muslims rioting for Obama`s wannabe son.Why are muslims rioting for Obama`s wannabe son.houdinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16909163629295836576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-79350423541797897642013-07-16T22:10:11.724-07:002013-07-16T22:10:11.724-07:00I do think that in addition to NBC, Zimmerman shou...I do think that in addition to NBC, Zimmerman should take that Brit outcast Piers Morgan to Court for defamation.houdinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16909163629295836576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-10765034984997568222013-07-16T19:38:36.682-07:002013-07-16T19:38:36.682-07:00Weirdly enough, Mike, he claimed that we are racis...Weirdly enough, Mike, he claimed that we are racist against Hispanics.<br /><br />He made some kind of claim that he is half-Hispanic, and that in some way this post and all of its comments is racist against Hispanics.<br /><br />He didn't follow up any further than that upon his fantastically stupid claim. I'm guessing because even people like Nagaura have a limit when it comes to astonishing stupidity.<br /><br />(He also, of course, said "O have bad news for you, I'm a man!"... whatever that means. I suppose it's some sort of veiled threat that he's going to beat us up or something...)<br /><br />I have absolutely no clue where he got that from, but there you go. it's no wonder Jews have continued to thrive throughout history, with complete drooling simpletons like him as our enemy... ;)JayinPhiladelphiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14556212008313470286noreply@blogger.com