tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post49664383001759141..comments2024-01-02T02:18:30.960-08:00Comments on Israel Thrives: A Baby is Stoned for Being an "Occupier"Mike L.http://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-71331379679805363332013-04-02T14:23:15.836-07:002013-04-02T14:23:15.836-07:00This is why I refuse to lend legitimacy to the ter...This is why I refuse to lend legitimacy to the term 'Palestinian' which is as made up as Disney World. Empress Trudyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06073538968722986065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-41764390427028071572013-04-02T10:15:10.393-07:002013-04-02T10:15:10.393-07:00Yes, I was referring to those two groups.
Unlike ...Yes, I was referring to those two groups.<br /><br />Unlike the Islamists, BDSers and assorted other useful idiot antisemites at places like <i>Daily Kos</i>, these people obviously don't hate <i>Jews qua Jews</i>, so they don't fit into the antisemitic anti-Zionist category (even if they do often make common cause with those who do). I suppose it's ultimately probably a distinction without a difference, but it's one I at least try to recognize every time I speak on the subject.<br /><br />For whatever that's worth.JayinPhiladelphiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14556212008313470286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-437470192881851212013-04-02T08:49:59.310-07:002013-04-02T08:49:59.310-07:00"...so I will choose to not weigh in on anti-..."...so I will choose to not weigh in on anti-Zionist Jewish sects, but I will certainly not defend them either."<br /><br />If you're talking about the Ultra-Orthodox, with most of them "anti-Zionism" is really a misnomer for anti-secularism; most of them, at least in Israel, are tacitly reconciled to the fact that HaShem saw it fit to renew Jewish political sovereignty before bringing Mashiah ben David, but they don't accept a State of the Jews not ruled by Jewish Law.<br /><br />The Satmarers and the Neturei Karta stand out among the Ultra-Orthodox for being opposed to the Jewish State even were it ruled by Jewish Law; they say any renewal of Jewish political sovereignty by human hands is blasphemous. For them, the label of anti-Zionism truly fits, and it also explains why they get on with the hard-Leftist and Islamic anti-Zionist so well, despite the seeming contradiction (IOW, it's an unholy alliance).<br /><br />Me, I'm among the crocheted-skullcaps, the Nationalist-Religious or Religious Zionists. In general, we tend to relate to the question of Jewish governance with the attitude of "All in HaShem's good time," just so long as the Jewish nation-state fulfills the duty of populating the Land of Israel with Jews. Which is, sadly, why there's been a widening rupture between my group and the government in the past two decades, and especially after August 2005.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-77581782074449971442013-04-02T08:22:30.077-07:002013-04-02T08:22:30.077-07:00And here we go again...
"Two rockets fired f...And <a href="http://www.timesofisrael.com/mortar-fired-at-israel-from-gaza-no-injuries/" rel="nofollow">here we go again</a>...<br /><br />"<i>Two rockets fired from the central Gaza Strip at Israel on Tuesday afternoon, the first such attack in some two weeks.<br /><br />One rocket landed in an open area in the Eshkol area close to the fence with Gaza, the Israel Defense Forces said. A second rocket landed inside Gaza.</i>"<br /><br />I'm sure these were simply meant to deliver notes of love to the people of Israel, however. And the vicious Islamophobic Western media will surely be all over this, attacking the peaceful Gazans as they always so unfairly do in the minds of <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/comments/1197964/49764320#c8" rel="nofollow">those who reside in Anti-Zionist La-La Land</a>.JayinPhiladelphiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14556212008313470286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-50705462270000770232013-04-02T07:31:59.393-07:002013-04-02T07:31:59.393-07:00When people promote 'anti-Zionism,' what t...When people promote 'anti-Zionism,' what they're advocating is for the violent destruction* of an extant country, and against the national self-determination of the Jewish people. Alone against all peoples of the world, because even though some <i>claim</i> to oppose all forms of nation-states, I have yet to see any of those people focus like a laser on, say, erasing Greece or France (or even the United States - why don't these 'anti-Zionists' start right here at home, eh?) from the map as soon as possible.<br /><br />'Anti-Zionism' is as clear-cut a case of violent bigotry as could ever possibly exist.<br /><br />When a non-Jewish person declares themselves to be an 'anti-Zionist,' they are declaring themselves to be nothing more than a viciously bigoted advocate of war and potential genocide.<br /><br />I am not a religious scholar (nor am I religious in any way), so I will choose to not weigh in on anti-Zionist Jewish sects, but I will certainly not defend them either.<br /><br />So even though if not on your tactics (I do not support capital punishment in any way, shape or form), at least let the record reflect that I do fully agree with your assessment of 'anti-Zionists,' ziontruth.<br /><br />~~~<br /><br />*Just like any other country, let alone one which will soon turn 65 years old, the continued existence of Israel is not a matter up for debate; and even if it somehow <i>was</i>, it's not like the Knesset will meet next week to discuss the merits of any given random <i>Daily Kos</i> diary, and potentially vote on disbanding itself. So let's be real here. 'Anti-Zionists' are calling for war on the Jewish people, and at the very least, would not mind genocide if that is what it takes to accomplish their goal.JayinPhiladelphiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14556212008313470286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-16084588214677011672013-04-02T06:34:09.012-07:002013-04-02T06:34:09.012-07:00"Israel cannot just go around sweeping up ant..."Israel cannot just go around sweeping up anti-Zionists!"<br /><br />Oh, if you're talking about the operative difficulties in bringing all the anti-Zionists to justice, then no argument there, it could be a tad impossible. I was thinking about just the most high-profile ones, to set an example. Actually I think fixing the worldwide media outlets (to cease and desist from their anti-Israel bias) is the most important.<br /><br />But most of all it was the <em>moral</em> point of view I wanted to bring up here. There are those who think anti-Zionism is just another competitor on the marketplace of ideas, and therefore it should be protected as free speech; what I was hinting at, in the spirit of Giulio Meotti's article, is that that simply ain't so: Anti-Zionism isn't just a disliked but harmless idea, it something that gets Jews murdered, which is reason enough why it's worthy of being stamped out, no matter if that can be practically achieved or not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-53205393048358201702013-04-02T06:31:56.775-07:002013-04-02T06:31:56.775-07:00Will any of our self-proclaimed 'pro-Palestini...Will any of our self-proclaimed 'pro-Palestinian' (<i>wink wink</i>) friends call out <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/02/world/middleeast/hamas-imposes-new-restrictions-on-schools-in-gaza.html?ref=world&_r=0" rel="nofollow">Hamas' Apartheid policies</a> this time?<br /><br />Apartheid Gaza is just <i>zippety-doo-da-dandy</i> with certain 'progressive peace activists,' as long as Jews can't somehow be blamed, I guess...JayinPhiladelphiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14556212008313470286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-68517724844526836312013-04-01T20:48:55.176-07:002013-04-01T20:48:55.176-07:00By the way... so we're not supposed to mind th...By the way... so we're not supposed to mind that Barack Obama delivered his Ramallah remarks beneath a picture of Yassir Arafat?<br /><br />Am I to understand that even most American Jewish supporters of Israel do not mind?<br /><br />Symbolism counts, ladies and gents.Mike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-36069762949977315182013-04-01T19:25:20.909-07:002013-04-01T19:25:20.909-07:00Anti-Zionism is essentially the new antisemitism. ...Anti-Zionism is essentially the new antisemitism. They can put all the lipstick on that pig they want to, it doesn't change a thing.Doodadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03349941094682080146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-18921361687210854852013-04-01T19:16:26.167-07:002013-04-01T19:16:26.167-07:00Thanks. Always something it seems. What a wacky wo...Thanks. Always something it seems. What a wacky world sometimes.Doodadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03349941094682080146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-71600882303640734412013-04-01T19:10:06.908-07:002013-04-01T19:10:06.908-07:00Shit, man. Sorry to hear that. Don't even kn...Shit, man. Sorry to hear that. Don't even know what to say, but at least they're aware of the problem. For whatever little comfort that may be worth, I suppose...JayinPhiladelphiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14556212008313470286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-53928164548283431232013-04-01T19:06:40.376-07:002013-04-01T19:06:40.376-07:00Though I would stop at permanent denial-of-entry i...Though I would stop at permanent denial-of-entry into Israel for any foreigner who engages in 'anti-Zionist' activities, at least you're honest about where you stand. Unlike the antisemitic anti-Zionists, whose advocated outcome can only result in war and genocide in the real world. If those 'mere anti-Zionists' (wink wink) would just be honest, and admit that what they truly support and wish for is war and genocide, I'd at least respect them a little bit.JayinPhiladelphiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14556212008313470286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-25531734750955781192013-04-01T18:46:19.950-07:002013-04-01T18:46:19.950-07:00Right on Jay. Solidarity like that I can get behin...Right on Jay. Solidarity like that I can get behind. I'm a little wired up right now over all this stuff. Just found out the University has posted an armed guard to shadow my eldest daughter at work cause some weirdo just paroled murderer has developed an unhealthy fetish about her after she interviewed him for the program she oversees/teaches. She reported it but the admin screwed up and let him enroll before his parole officer expressed concern. I'm messed up about it and on edge so I may sound a bit more severe than normal...if that is even possible.Doodadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03349941094682080146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-67700850001125572922013-04-01T18:17:32.100-07:002013-04-01T18:17:32.100-07:00I co-sign Doodad's statements.I co-sign Doodad's statements.JayinPhiladelphiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14556212008313470286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-45904187950036839192013-04-01T18:05:16.591-07:002013-04-01T18:05:16.591-07:00Who do Palestinians want to elect? A guy doing 5 f...Who do Palestinians want to elect? A guy doing 5 freaking life terms!!!!<br /><br />" The poll showed that if Barghouti ran today against Haniyeh, he would receive the support of 60% of voters as opposed to 33% for the latter. <br /><br /> If presidential elections were between three - Abbas, Barghouti and Haniyeh, the jailed Fatah leader would receive the largest percentage [38%] followed by Haniyeh [31%] and Abbas [26%]."<br /><br />http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Poll-Palestinians-prefer-Barghouti-over-Abbas-as-PA-head-308320<br /><br />There is something SERIOUSLY wrong with these people. Doodadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03349941094682080146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-80474516934446700982013-04-01T17:53:59.177-07:002013-04-01T17:53:59.177-07:00Anyone who calls me a racist for that can kiss my ...Anyone who calls me a racist for that can kiss my tush. Or kiss their favorite Jihadi.Doodadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03349941094682080146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-59963787592281208762013-04-01T17:32:27.549-07:002013-04-01T17:32:27.549-07:00And let's not forget what the Gaza barbarians ...And let's not forget what the Gaza barbarians did after the murder of the Fogels:<br /><br />"Gaza residents from the southern city of Rafah hit the streets Saturday to celebrate the terror attack in the West Bank settlement of Itamar where five family members were murdered in their sleep, including three children.<br /><br />Residents handed out candy and sweets, one resident saying the joy “is a natural response to the harm settlers inflict on the Palestinian residents in the West Bank.”<br /><br />http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4041106,00.html<br /><br />Let us NEVER forget this.Doodadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03349941094682080146noreply@blogger.com