tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post5507542535928643018..comments2024-01-02T02:18:30.960-08:00Comments on Israel Thrives: The "Linkage" Falsehood and the Riyadh-Cairo AxisMike L.http://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-61440684895615596512015-04-27T23:44:52.749-07:002015-04-27T23:44:52.749-07:00re: Linkage
The peoples of that region have been h...re: Linkage<br />The peoples of that region have been hating and fighting each other for ever and day. The one and only thing that unites them and mollifies their hate for each other is hatred of Jews. We'll create a peace agreement which will take away the only thing that unites them and then they'll all suddenly start getting along.JeffwithaJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07073609950380822171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-92147721329304874532015-04-27T23:29:01.518-07:002015-04-27T23:29:01.518-07:00Trudy,
You use the word "cannibal" as if...Trudy,<br />You use the word "cannibal" as if there is something wrong with cannibalism. Are you a racist? :-DJeffwithaJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07073609950380822171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-50551621255486615112015-04-27T23:27:01.281-07:002015-04-27T23:27:01.281-07:00Are you saying he went identity slumming to find t...Are you saying he went identity slumming to find the connection? I'm sure he's experienced some feelings of racial discrimination in his life, but then again he is not the typical African American in terms of heritage and legacy. He's not the son of slaves. He might be said to be somewhat of a carpet bagger.<br />Interesting that no one has done the usual psychological workup on him that Republicans presidents and certain leaders of a now defunct German Reich usually receive which shows them to be flawed in some fundamental way (or stupid). I couldn't help but notice, and I'm not even a Republican. <br />I think they are afraid to.JeffwithaJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07073609950380822171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-45661665262338504482015-04-27T17:35:43.084-07:002015-04-27T17:35:43.084-07:00Obama's "civil rights" lineage is no...Obama's "civil rights" lineage is nothing like MLK's or most black Americans. Obama has no family connection through his parents or those that raised him to slavery or Jim Crow.oldschooltwentysixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15672887176887940797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-41438130435288103062015-04-27T15:45:05.948-07:002015-04-27T15:45:05.948-07:00Mike,
May I come back to you on those points tomor...Mike,<br />May I come back to you on those points tomorrow? Not possible now due to the late hour here in England.<br />It's an interesting conversation, and thread.khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04651898817618608477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-18345335513493850672015-04-27T15:45:01.885-07:002015-04-27T15:45:01.885-07:00It's nothing at all to do with justice. That&#...It's nothing at all to do with justice. That's something they tell the cheap seats so that they're boil out in the streams and set cop cars on fire. Call me sanguine or jaded but first world problems even when Baltimore riots over a young man killed by the cops, is still a first world problem. Meanwhile while you read that sentence, 10 black people in Burundi probably killed 10 other black people in Burundi and to them it runs deeper than any racial construct any race hustler in America can imagine. Empress Trudyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06073538968722986065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-43168093461332316112015-04-27T15:05:17.970-07:002015-04-27T15:05:17.970-07:00Remember Hanlon's razor:
Never attribute to m...<br />Remember Hanlon's razor:<br /><br /><i><b>Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.</b></i><br /><br />And, of course, it's not that the guy is stupid, it's just that he's not nearly so intelligent as they insisted that he is.<br /><br />K, Obama does have far more in common with the later thinkers that owe something to MLK.<br /><br />There is no doubt about that. But despite the differences, there is a lineage and MLK and Obama are part of the same lineage.<br /><br />This, I think, is exceedingly important:<br /><br /><i><b>they have helped to promote the idea that America's problems with its racial past can never be overcome.</b></i><br /><br />And Europe's, as well.<br /><br />This is, to my mind, a huge problem and thank you for raising it.<br /><br />The fact of the matter is that the West - leaving the Jihadis aside - is the least bigoted or "racist" part of the world today.<br /><br />Certainly the US is among the least racist countries in the world... yet we are told that we are among the worst.<br /><br />And that Israel <i>is</i> the worst.<br /><br />What continues to trouble me, however, is the almost absolute unwillingness of the Jewish Left to really face up to the fact that they support (or supported) an anti-Jewish / anti-Israel president of the United States.<br /><br />I was disappointed that Haber could not make that leap.<br />Mike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-14762041416907628942015-04-27T14:37:36.586-07:002015-04-27T14:37:36.586-07:00His intentions towards Israel are not in doubt. &q...His intentions towards Israel are not in doubt. "Justice" demands it to be destroyed.Jacobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14901811045493439598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-33473169561737806962015-04-27T14:34:13.463-07:002015-04-27T14:34:13.463-07:00One can desire justice for "people of color&q...One can desire justice for "people of color", and hate Jews at the same time.<br />Jacobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14901811045493439598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-33440233412534897992015-04-27T14:23:35.015-07:002015-04-27T14:23:35.015-07:00Mike,
Ultimately, he's a creature of the Civ...Mike,<br /><br /><i> Ultimately, he's a creature of the Civil Rights Movement </i>.<br /><br />He has very little in common with the Civil Rights Movement as it was under the stewardship of Dr King.<br />The later leaders of the Civil Rights Movement, and the academic theories that influenced them, turned what Martin Luther King had believed in on its head.<br />Obama is far more influenced by those later thinkers. <br />No longer believing in reform from within, they have advocated and agitated for fundamental transformation. They believe in division. And have helped to create more of it. Unfortunately, they have helped to promote the idea that America's problems with its racial past can never be overcome. And they have promoted the need for some kind of revenge. And, the need for African- Americans to think of themselves as permanent victims. This has been enormously damaging to millions of people's lives. And there seems no reason to believe that will change. Obama has repeatedly encouraged this type of thinking; with damaging and unhealthy results. For<br /> black Americans, and for the whole of American society.<br /><br />The whole notion of "justice" is vastly undermined and distorted by these changes in direction. <br /><br />"justice" in itself is a worthy goal. However, how you <i> define </i> it, defines your goals. <br /><br />Because of that, it is reasonable to doubt ( in some respects) his intentions.<br /><br /> khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04651898817618608477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-74545320355891529722015-04-27T13:35:59.670-07:002015-04-27T13:35:59.670-07:00I don't believe that. I believe he's a gli...I don't believe that. I believe he's a glint eyed fanatic through and through. The US has quite nearly run out of psychopaths to kiss up to. Who's left? North Korea? ISIS? We're talking to or talking about talking to Cuba, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Hamas, Hezbollah, Boko Haram, the Houthis.<br /><br />Where in a sane world is the bottom of that barrel? Cannibals? Ok we're not putting an embassy in Cannibalistan. Good. Yaay American values, we found a red line. Empress Trudyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06073538968722986065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-28872694981313305862015-04-27T13:19:58.487-07:002015-04-27T13:19:58.487-07:00Obama sees himself as a reformer, Trudy.
Ultimate...Obama sees himself as a reformer, Trudy.<br /><br />Ultimately, he's a creature of the Civil Rights Movement.<br /><br />What he wants is justice for poor people and people of color, both at home and abroad.<br /><br /><i>That</i>, I have little doubt, is how he would likely have framed his general political orientation throughout most of his life.<br /><br />One of the differences between us, I think, is that you doubt his intentions.<br /><br />I merely doubt his intelligence.Mike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-89182072093393474282015-04-27T09:41:48.855-07:002015-04-27T09:41:48.855-07:00If I were horribly cynical.....which of course I&#...If I were horribly cynical.....which of course I'm not, I'd say Obama knows he's offering a deal no one can accept in order to foment precisely the violence and anarchy that are occuring BECAUSE it can lead inevitably to something like Iranian hegemony or at least a semi permanent state of war on the ground between the Sunni states and Iran. Bush may have had some form of personal relationships with the House of Saud AS the government and economy of Saudi Arabia but Obama does not. He only has an affinity for the concept of a theocratic fundamentalist Islamic MOVEMENT and the Saudi establishment isn't viewed by Obama as a movement albeit their efforts to create movements here are always appreciated. <br /><br />What if Obama's long game is anarchy? Revolutionaries tend to use that and Obama certainly sees himself as a revolutionary. Empress Trudyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06073538968722986065noreply@blogger.com