tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post5709126361870015588..comments2024-01-02T02:18:30.960-08:00Comments on Israel Thrives: The Hypocrisy of Volleyboy1Mike L.http://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-59308909115138780442012-03-05T15:07:24.602-08:002012-03-05T15:07:24.602-08:00They all respect this guy.
Left, right, and cente...They all respect this guy.<br /><br />Left, right, and center.<br /><br />He doesn't speak all that often, but when he does, people tend to listen.Mike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-24411670415699195252012-03-05T14:54:53.519-08:002012-03-05T14:54:53.519-08:00His web site is entitled: A Liberal Defence of Isr...His web site is entitled: A Liberal Defence of Israel<br /><br />His letters are worth reading, including:<br /><br />Letter to Edinburgh University Student Association<br /><br />http://mid-eastplus.blogspot.com/2011/04/letter-to-edinburgh-university-student.html<br /><br />A Letter to the Quakers<br /><br />http://mid-eastplus.blogspot.com/2011/04/letter-to-quakers.html<br /><br />A Letter to the Archbishop of Westminster<br /><br />http://mid-eastplus.blogspot.com/2011/12/letter-to-archbishop-of-westminster.htmloldschooltwentysixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15672887176887940797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-19918436742123171012012-03-05T14:41:27.668-08:002012-03-05T14:41:27.668-08:00I understand, Reuven.
I mean, I understand how yo...I understand, Reuven.<br /><br />I mean, I understand how you might feel that way.<br /><br />The truth is, tho, that Professor MacEoin is a well-respected and not particularly ideological scholar.<br /><br />http://mid-eastplus.blogspot.com/2011/03/open-letter-to-tamar-fogel.html<br /><br />I just think that you made a mistake due to your own ideological inclinations.<br /><br />For myself, I am proud that when the people dropped by to help her through this very difficult moment that my name was there.<br /><br />I very much wish that yours had been, as well.<br /><br />I did not ask a lot of people to sign this letter, last year, but I did ask you and that was due to affection and respect.<br /><br />I was disappointed that you decided against.Mike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-73593695170224991642012-03-05T14:32:36.074-08:002012-03-05T14:32:36.074-08:00No, actually, it's the reverse. I have NOT le...No, actually, it's the reverse. I have NOT let politics get in the way of basic human decency. Basic human decency demands not using tragedy for your own political ends. It was just as wrong when soysauce over at Daily Kos used Troy Davis' execution for her own political ends as it is now when you seek to use the Fogel family's brutal murder for your own political ends.Reuvenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11244438675012791990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-40798133158583966532012-03-05T14:31:43.384-08:002012-03-05T14:31:43.384-08:00The real you comes out with that remark. Once agai...The real you comes out with that remark. Once again. It's like you cannot help yourself.<br /><br />What a great example you are for your 8 year old, when it comes to tolerance for others.oldschooltwentysixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15672887176887940797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-51092984626818808882012-03-05T14:13:12.359-08:002012-03-05T14:13:12.359-08:00Yes, I did. Especially because when people raise w...Yes, I did. Especially because when people raise what threatens Jews, you use the "hate" and "bigot" cards.<br /><br />Not to mention that you wrongly call people Republicans when they are not.<br /><br />In fact, you seem to like to call people names and demean them.<br /><br />You see, I do not run from my actions or words.<br /><br />When you stop laughing to yourself about something that is NOT a laughing matter, I challenge you to find one instance where I have been bigoted.<br /><br />I can show you tons where you have engaged in gratuitous conduct.oldschooltwentysixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15672887176887940797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-32318235453265069462012-03-05T14:08:55.881-08:002012-03-05T14:08:55.881-08:00You're something akin to a fascist, actually, ...You're something akin to a fascist, actually, Volleyboy1.<br /><br />You believe that you have the right to tell Jewish people where we may, or may not, live.Mike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-59467513502950379002012-03-05T14:06:40.439-08:002012-03-05T14:06:40.439-08:00Michael.... Listen man... I am out of here.
You a...Michael.... Listen man... I am out of here.<br /><br />You and oldschool should have fun jerking each other off (metaphorically) over this. You're on your own. <br /><br />Anyway, thanks for the laughs, because honestly that's all you are good for these days. I look forward to seeing more of your crazed, drooling rants to delete at the PZ. That last one was a classic. <br /><br />You are quite the brave little keyboard warrior.volleyboy1https://www.blogger.com/profile/02899507817699308811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-84317773986429843222012-03-05T14:02:14.226-08:002012-03-05T14:02:14.226-08:00oldschool... did you just compare me to the U.I.??...oldschool... did you just compare me to the U.I.???? (the troubadour who we "untrustworthy Jews" call the Useful Idiot)... <br /><br />AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA This is freakin' comedy gold.volleyboy1https://www.blogger.com/profile/02899507817699308811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-31117847040550735162012-03-05T13:55:56.558-08:002012-03-05T13:55:56.558-08:00Answer for what? I was perfectly clear... I have t...Answer for what? I was perfectly clear... I have to wonder if you vote for Israeli interests as priority over American ones, why do you live here? You are more than welcome to vote in any way you want so that's that... but, I am just wondering why not just live there? BTW, my Israeli friends all feel the same way I do about this.<br /><br />Anyway, take a break Michael, you need it. This breakdown is tough to watch.volleyboy1https://www.blogger.com/profile/02899507817699308811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-25032579611367388942012-03-05T13:54:37.901-08:002012-03-05T13:54:37.901-08:00You throw the word "bigot" around whenev...You throw the word "bigot" around whenever you disagree. It's a preferred tactic. Again, I think you fit the definition to a tee.<br /><br />I challenge you to show me one instance where I have been bigoted or where I have used it as a tactical weapon.oldschooltwentysixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15672887176887940797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-31871350469437970622012-03-05T13:49:51.122-08:002012-03-05T13:49:51.122-08:00I forgot to add "bigot" to the list.I forgot to add "bigot" to the list.oldschooltwentysixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15672887176887940797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-7024497431593246552012-03-05T13:46:04.160-08:002012-03-05T13:46:04.160-08:00My response:
1. Your words were clear, and you ca...My response:<br /><br />1. Your words were clear, and you can try to explain to the heavens. I was not the only one who took it that way. You wrote the diary that said it, and it was in response to a blogger Joel Braunold in Haaretz. Why are you being deceptive?<br /><br />2. With regard to bigotry, you excuse your own. Recently, you quoted the dictionary to me with regard to whether democracy was a proper noun. I also used it to show you are no less a bigot yourself. Here, again, is the definition:<br /><br /><b>"a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance."</b><br /><br />http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot<br /><br />I think that sounds just like you and livosh. <br /><br />I challenge you to show where I have been bigoted in even one instance.oldschooltwentysixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15672887176887940797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-35119049947648476122012-03-05T13:45:00.164-08:002012-03-05T13:45:00.164-08:00I am sorry, dummy, but you made the claim.
Here i...I am sorry, dummy, but you made the claim.<br /><br />Here it is:<br /><br /><i>I would say that if this is one's point of view, that the voter who feels this way is living in the wrong country... If you want to vote for Israeli determined priorities, Kol HaKavod, move to Israel.</i><br /><br />Now, answer for it.<br /><br />Who?Mike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-30933816494089210272012-03-05T13:43:12.199-08:002012-03-05T13:43:12.199-08:00AHAHAHAHAHA
Listen here, you fucking moron,
you ...AHAHAHAHAHA<br /><br /><em>Listen here, you fucking moron,<br /><br />you do not get to make claims and then not answer for them.</em><br /><br />Man, you should calm down... you are going to have a heart attack. You are seriously off your nut. Have you talked to anyone about this issue? If not, you should. <br /><br />As for this:<br /><br /><em>You claimed that certain kinds of Jews should move to Israel with the implication that they are not worthy of being Americans.<br /><br />WHO?</em><br /><br />Who... what? <br /><br />I am sorry but I am seriously laughing here. You are so out in left field it is ridiculous. Please take a deep breath and calm down.volleyboy1https://www.blogger.com/profile/02899507817699308811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-77491298042858256962012-03-05T13:34:30.533-08:002012-03-05T13:34:30.533-08:00No biggie. I have thicker skin than some others.
...No biggie. I have thicker skin than some others.<br /><br />The treatment says more about them than me.oldschooltwentysixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15672887176887940797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-12259465875281137842012-03-05T13:33:36.149-08:002012-03-05T13:33:36.149-08:00Michael... I say this again... have you seriously ...Michael... I say this again... have you seriously lost your mind? Wow... I mean how old are you - Seven?<br /><br />But this is funny:<br /><br /><em>You obviously care more about that than you do the well-being of the Jewish people.</em><br /><br />Considering you made this statement:<br /><br /><em>"And only a complete idiot would think that Iran has no rational reason to develop nukes.<br /><br />Of course, they have every reason to develop nuclear weaponry."</em> <br /><br />in support of Iranian nukes. This is truly a surreal moment. <br /><br /><em>I consider you a hypocrite and a liar.</em><br /><br />Yeah... so... I consider you a whacked out deranged bigot. That and $ 5.00 bucks gets you a Starbucks Latte. Am I supposed to care that somewhere in that crazed mind of yours that you consider me a hypocrite and liar? Why?<br /><br />And this:<br /><br /><em>And you still owe School an apology for your shabby treatment of the guy as he has contributed to your blog.</em><br /><br />Errr... no. You can apologize to him on my behalf if you like, but that won't be coming from me. Who exactly do you think you are anyway, demanding things from me? Why in the world would I care what you think or demand?volleyboy1https://www.blogger.com/profile/02899507817699308811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-92063799250822762062012-03-05T13:33:31.493-08:002012-03-05T13:33:31.493-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.oldschooltwentysixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15672887176887940797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-26610788834209974572012-03-05T13:32:22.459-08:002012-03-05T13:32:22.459-08:00Your statement that suggests anyone proposes Iran ...Your statement that suggests anyone proposes Iran SHOULD have nukes is pure sophistry.oldschooltwentysixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15672887176887940797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-47875297661268193572012-03-05T13:30:10.543-08:002012-03-05T13:30:10.543-08:00I don't know what he is doing, and at this poi...I don't know what he is doing, and at this point I don't much care.<br /><br />I see him like The Troubador, who also calls himself a "Progressive Zionist" so far as I can tell.<br /><br />Living in an echo chamber where every third word is either "deranged" or "hater" or "dishonest," such that the words lose meaning.<br /><br />He DID use those words "why would this voter bother living here instead of in Israel?" and "then you live in the wrong place." I see no other meaning than the obvious one.oldschooltwentysixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15672887176887940797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-45725741367516229202012-03-05T13:24:30.262-08:002012-03-05T13:24:30.262-08:00@ oldschool. You may see my comment that way - but...@ oldschool. You may see my comment that way - but that was not it's intention. I very clearly explained that at the time and in my response to Hoodoo man. Yet... You continue along your merry way not reading responses. That's your fault - not mine. <br /><br />As far as livosh's comment. I can't really disagree with him. What's the problem there? <br /><br />Listen, you guys want to have your little whacked out fest here... Dynamite. You guys want to support Iranian nukes... Hey that is your business.... <br /><br />See oldschool... I don't like bigots when they are on my side or the other side. <br /><br />Also, for me, Right now I am far more concerned with the American Election and how it effects my community and my family than I am about how Im Tirtzu and the ECI define the Global Jihad.<br /><br />For you it is a priority and you have this blog and your blog to write about it. So write there and let me worry about what I write.volleyboy1https://www.blogger.com/profile/02899507817699308811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-82948960686254378852012-03-05T13:17:37.381-08:002012-03-05T13:17:37.381-08:00You may be right, School, that this does not merit...You may be right, School, that this does not merit a post, in itself, but I am sick to death of this slaves servility to this administration, as well as his grotesque hostility toward anyone who disagrees with him.<br /><br />Volleyboy1 needs to be called out whenever he spouts more of his hostile and incoherent gibberish.<br /><br />For example, Volleyboy1 needs to tell us just how it is that Jews building housing for themselves on the western bank of the Jordan river, means that dictator Abbas cannot draw a line on a map.<br /><br />Why, in other words, is Volleyboy1 taking the side of Palestinians over Jews?Mike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-87290315995876443382012-03-05T13:13:14.728-08:002012-03-05T13:13:14.728-08:00Bullshit.
The reason that you cannot discuss it i...Bullshit.<br /><br />The reason that you cannot discuss it is because it makes your master look bad.<br /><br />You obviously care more about that than you do the well-being of the Jewish people.<br /><br />I consider you a hypocrite and a liar.<br /><br />And you still owe School an apology for your shabby treatment of the guy as he has contributed to your blog.Mike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-56425987548914308932012-03-05T13:08:40.913-08:002012-03-05T13:08:40.913-08:00To Michael... Yes that is an unreasonable question...To Michael... Yes that is an unreasonable question and it is framed in such as way that discussion of it is not possible. THAT is why I never discuss it with you. It's a stupid question. <br /><br />Michael.... There are better ways to get attention than this.volleyboy1https://www.blogger.com/profile/02899507817699308811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-61836904910976722682012-03-05T12:59:56.046-08:002012-03-05T12:59:56.046-08:00LOL Michael (since the reply button doesn't wo...LOL Michael (since the reply button doesn't work) too f'in funny. <br /><br />Yes, I did write those words you wrote, as they were part of a long diary which was asking the question that "I WONDER, if Israel is a persons #1 loyalty - wouldn't it make sense to move there?". That is the context. You should also note that I said - vote however you like as it is your right as an American. I was just wondering not telling you to move there. Although, given your stridency and love of the YESHA, I gotta wonder, why haven't you? I mean you are more than willing to put Israelis on the line for your beliefs... <br /><br />I stand by everyone of my words in that diary. The fact that you have a problem with reading comprehension is not my fault. I might suggest some after school programs that might help. <br /><br />Ok.. on to the rest of it... Are you seriously taking the Ahmadinejhad line that Iran SHOULD develop nukes? Why the hell should they do that? All it will lead to is regional instability and the deaths of many Israelis. But yet, you support the Iranian drive develop nukes. I thought you defended our right as a people to survive - YET you defend the right of our worst enemies to build nukes.... Holy crap! <br /><br />Do you have a sad that I rag on your new Republican allies to much.... AWWWWWW? <br /><br />But hey coming from a guy that supports Iranian nukes and says:<br /><br /><em>"And only a complete idiot would think that Iran has no rational reason to develop nukes.<br /><br />Of course, they have every reason to develop nuclear weaponry."</em><br /><br />Wow... <br /><br />What happened did you fall out of bed and smack your head this AM?volleyboy1https://www.blogger.com/profile/02899507817699308811noreply@blogger.com