tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post6203488446230546717..comments2024-01-02T02:18:30.960-08:00Comments on Israel Thrives: Confronting Jew Hatred on Daily Kos: Are They Nazis?Mike L.http://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-27221409172701460062014-08-17T11:18:50.896-07:002014-08-17T11:18:50.896-07:00While you did a reasonable job responding to Flysw...While you did a reasonable job responding to Flyswatterbanjo's nonsense, there's one item of Flyswatterbanjo's nonsense that you missed, "General Petraeus’ warning that our interests are harmed by our perceived favoritism of Israel."<br /><br />With that item, FSB invokes the authority of David Petraeus to put a veneer of impartial expertise behind his assertions. However, there is another authority on what Petraeus believes regarding American support for Israel and the consequences of such support on American interests abroad, David Petraeus. The following footage of a talk that Petraeus gave at St. Anselm College gives Petraeus' position on support for Israel straight from the horse's mouth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJzXvAK36OI .Sar Shalomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12249389597567433544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-12556199254243403042014-08-15T23:35:51.526-07:002014-08-15T23:35:51.526-07:00The site may indeed represent the progressive-left...The site may indeed represent the progressive-left as it expresses itself within the activist netroots. Is that different than the liberal-left? <br /><br />On the other hand, it may represent the extremist-left more than anything, especially if the theatrical aspect exists. <br /><br />Yammerings at the base of the movement and the party seem less strident and more pragmatic than that seen and heard from the activist netroots that lives in a world of theory and arguments. It depends on the movement involved. That is not to say there is not an overlap, but outside the netroots people deal with reality.oldschooltwentysixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15672887176887940797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-77155161311657154702014-08-15T21:36:41.579-07:002014-08-15T21:36:41.579-07:00School,
I cannot even begin to tell you the numb...School, <br /><br />I cannot even begin to tell you the number of times that people have told me that dkos is essentially irrelevant.<br /><br />My point has always been not that dkos has much in the way of influence, but that it, along with other such venues, represent the progressive-left as it expresses itself within the activist netroots.<br /><br />It represents yammerings at the base of the movement and the party.<br /><br />But, as I say, I am very much looking forward to putting that place and those people back into my rear view mirror.<br /><br />I'll drop in again in two or three years, the next time that we go through this thing with Gaza.Mike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-2430253918921895792014-08-15T13:57:03.558-07:002014-08-15T13:57:03.558-07:00Is there back and forth?
I do not consider what o...Is there back and forth?<br /><br />I do not consider what occurs there as activism, but theater, of actors seeking to outdo and give a virtuoso performance in an echo chamber.<br /><br />The hatred has been there well before now. It is in the DNA and it is not just for Israel and Jews.<br /><br />Democrats are looking more closely about Obama and Israel. Support is down. Daily Kos is a non-factor, however, except to show what goes on in the deep end and to illustrate excess and hypocrisy in the abstract.<br /><br />In other words, it is a diversion where not much of any significance or intellect is produced, but surely a bunch of white noise by people who cannot hide their hatred in fake concern about the human condition.oldschooltwentysixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15672887176887940797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-38348452616438508772014-08-15T13:14:57.293-07:002014-08-15T13:14:57.293-07:00I think that we make a mistake when we underestima...I think that we make a mistake when we underestimate the power of the normal discursive back-and-forth on large political blogs like Daily Kos or the others. I have recently returned to monitoring dkos only because of the current hostilities in Gaza and, you can be sure, am very much looking forward to putting it in my rear view mirror.<br /><br />I do believe that it helps us understand the way that the activist base thinks and, clearly, what we are seeing on both the Executive level, in the WH, and the netroots level, on places like Daily Kos, is an extreme ramping up of Israel Hatred.<br /><br />ZOG is now considered the new normal?<br /><br />This is significant and may represent a sort-of turning point in how Democrats discuss this issue.Mike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-79237127405983065292014-08-15T11:35:44.587-07:002014-08-15T11:35:44.587-07:00Although reference to Daily Kos is at times approp...Although reference to Daily Kos is at times appropriate, fixation is not. <br /><br />The theater of Daily Kos is itself based on fixation, and it is across the board, no matter the issue. Every matter is monumental, and each requires the actors to assume the proper role of a progressive angel, saving us all from ourselves, according to dogma that practices "Repressive Tolerance" to accomplish its goal. This allows behavior opposite of what they demand from others, in blindness to what it makes them in the process. Totalitarians.<br /><br />At Daily Kos they have their dungeons and dragons playrooms. Israel is just one in a line of causes, according to the zeitgeist. I do not think any fly would be afraid of flyswatterbanjo, or any Jew or capitalist for that matter. If these incapable illiberals were ever in charge, they probably could not even succeed in bringing about the brave new world they seek, except in a social media type of way.<br /><br />In other words, better to understand what they are and are not. They may be the netroots, but not the grassroots. Know what they say, but also know that they operate in reflexive fashion, away from reality and things of greater substance.oldschooltwentysixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15672887176887940797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-85580195939622112552014-08-15T10:34:04.415-07:002014-08-15T10:34:04.415-07:00We're waiting on the Eagles and the Flyers her...We're waiting on the Eagles and the Flyers here. The Phillies aren't even the best baseball team in Southeastern Pennsylvania. There's probably a high school team or two capable of sweeping them in a series.<br /><br />Enjoy the game, though!<br /><br />I haven't had garlic fries since Portland. Laurelwood Public House on NW 23rd around Lovejoy, just off the streetcar, if I recall. Which I don't think even exists anymore. Must have been seven years ago.JayinPhiladelphiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14556212008313470286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-16111065005886353322014-08-15T10:18:42.262-07:002014-08-15T10:18:42.262-07:00Oh, and btw, the Phillies are in town.
The Giants...Oh, and btw, the Phillies are in town.<br /><br />The Giants are 5.5 games behind the insidious Dodgers.<br /><br />We're going to the game on Sunday.<br /><br />My brother-in-law is in town and we going to show him the ball park.<br /><br />Garlic fries and like that.<br /><br />Y'know, if only they played béisbol in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia all our problems would be over!<br /><br />;O)Mike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-71805623191662617432014-08-15T09:55:37.685-07:002014-08-15T09:55:37.685-07:00And, btw, if we fail to support them politically t...And, btw, if we fail to support them politically this makes us "conservatives" and "neocons."<br /><br />The worst people on the planet.Mike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-28952775949471644342014-08-15T09:40:50.244-07:002014-08-15T09:40:50.244-07:00The concept of "Nazi" has two meanings.
...The concept of "Nazi" has two meanings.<br /><br />The first, naturally, is that of the National Socialist German Workers Party between the end of the 1920s and the middle of the 1940s.<br /><br />The second meaning, which I suppose is specific to Jews, is anyone who spreads malicious themes about Jews in such a manner as to promote violence. Talk of baby killing, as we see on Daily Kos, and elsewhere, is straight out of the Medieval period.<br /><br />Talk of genocide and Gaza as the new Warsaw ghetto represent the manner in which the enemies of the Jewish people use the Shoah as a club against us. They've taken the single worst nightmare in 4,000 years of Jewish history - one still within living memory - and they use it as a weapon.Mike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-59330787914979662392014-08-15T09:26:41.376-07:002014-08-15T09:26:41.376-07:00Hmmm. Maybe a bit harsh? They're DEFINITELY a...Hmmm. Maybe a bit harsh? They're DEFINITELY antisemites, that's for sure. But scratch a bit below the surface, and I wouldn't be surprised to find that most share quite a bit more than ZOG with neo-Nazis...JayinPhiladelphiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14556212008313470286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-75686377772896467752014-08-15T09:21:56.335-07:002014-08-15T09:21:56.335-07:00If you make, or agree with, a statement that ZOG (...If you make, or agree with, a statement that ZOG (especially in a diary noting that the current administration is HOLDING UP weapons shipments! how the fuck does THAT 'prove' their point, btw?!) is 'true,' you are a neo-Nazi.<br /><br />'HoundDog' is a neo-Nazi. And his 83 upraters are neo-Nazis. It's irrelevant what else they believe. If they believe Jews secretly control the government, they are neo-Nazis. There are no two ways about it.JayinPhiladelphiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14556212008313470286noreply@blogger.com