tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post6729916976795558305..comments2024-01-02T02:18:30.960-08:00Comments on Israel Thrives: 55 Rockets, Mortars Hit SouthMike L.http://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-71418296303529891522012-10-08T23:31:17.055-07:002012-10-08T23:31:17.055-07:00Here's what you said:
"Nonetheless, it r...Here's what you said:<br /><br />"Nonetheless, it remains the case that progressive-left Jews, like progressives, in general, would not acknowledge the Jihad if they were on their hands and knees in some basement in Karachi"<br /><br />That's what I was responding to. I suspect you'll resopnd with "i didn't mean all of them". But of course, what you said clearly implies all of them. That would include me. <br /><br />Do non-jews have to draw from the past too? Or just Jews? I've asked you this repeatedly and so far you've never responded. If a jew and a non-jew come to the same conclusion, is it not possible that they came to the conclusion in the same way? Or does only the jew suffer from a mental defect?<br /><br />And you know damn well what dhimmitude means. American Jews, by definition, cannot be dhimmis. Stuarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09405170992142157365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-75458066596768109842012-10-08T22:27:06.021-07:002012-10-08T22:27:06.021-07:00Stuart, you may very well have come to the correct...Stuart, you may very well have come to the correct conclusion, but just what conclusion would that be?<br /><br />What exactly are we talking about?<br /><br />The essence of what we sometimes call "Jewish Stockholm Syndrome" or <i>dhimmitude</i> is in accepting "the Palestinian narrative," at least in some measure, into one's understanding of the conflict.<br /><br />Given that this narrative is based almost entirely <a href="http://www.meforum.org/466/benny-morris-and-the-reign-of-error" rel="nofollow">on historical fiction and lies</a>, it is better that Jewish people, and those who care about the Jewish state, be circumspect and skeptical when it comes to that narrative, that tissue of lies.<br /><br />You write:<br /><br /><b><i>For those that have reached a different conclusion, I suspect they've come to it honestly and without being coerced by 2,000 years of history...</i></b><br /><br />For the life of me, I do not understand how one can draw conclusions about the present without reference to the past.<br /><br />This seems to be a pet idea of yours, but I would strongly encourage you to give it further consideration.<br /><br />Mike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-88217798390763279452012-10-08T20:55:54.691-07:002012-10-08T20:55:54.691-07:00You are wrong, because I am a progressive-left jew...You are wrong, because I am a progressive-left jew and I acknowledge it. I'm sure I'm not alone. I would like to think that my analysis of the barrage of information has lead me to the correct conclusion. For those that have reached a different conclusion, I suspect they've come to it honestly and without being coerced by 2,000 years of history, irrespective of their jewishness. Stuarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09405170992142157365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-1160276064607950122012-10-08T20:42:21.256-07:002012-10-08T20:42:21.256-07:00Well, there's real bad guys and there are acco...Well, there's real bad guys and there are accomplices. Those real bad guys have a lot of accomplices worldwide and within the actual state of Israel.Doodadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03349941094682080146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-84956713646545983292012-10-08T20:40:32.713-07:002012-10-08T20:40:32.713-07:00For the record, I do not claim that dhimmi Jews ha...For the record, I do not claim that dhimmi Jews have a mental defect or any psychological disorder, although I clearly understand why you suggest so.<br /><br />That particular misunderstanding is not your fault, but my own, because it is inherent in the implication of the word "syndrome" as in "Jewish Stockholm Syndrome."<br /><br />Also, of course, Kenneth Levin suggests that a people under siege, as the Jews have been for 2,000 years, adopt psychological tactics, but that is hardly the same as a "mental defect."<br /><br />It's actually more about, as I have said repeatedly, the incorporation of anti-Jewish / anti-Israel propaganda into one's way of thinking about the Arab-Israel conflict.<br /><br />Nonetheless, it remains the case that progressive-left Jews, like progressives, in general, would not acknowledge the Jihad if they were on their hands and knees in some basement in Karachi.<br /><br />We both know that is true, do we not?<br /><br />And at the same time they are more than happy to attack those, such as Pam Geller, who speak out against the Jihad.<br /><br />Tell me how I am wrong.Mike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-56012494422477408312012-10-08T18:27:46.232-07:002012-10-08T18:27:46.232-07:00I guess what find the most odd, is that you someho...I guess what find the most odd, is that you somehow think that Jews are incapable of coming to their conclusions without it being the result of a mental defect. I don't understand how and why you think so lowly of your fellow jews. Stuarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09405170992142157365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-28087148411995469862012-10-08T17:45:46.306-07:002012-10-08T17:45:46.306-07:00I don't think so, Stuart.
As the bombs fall o...I don't think so, Stuart.<br /><br />As the bombs fall on S'derot and Ashkelon progressive-left diaspora Jewry is virtually silent.<br /><br />As political Islam advances in the Middle East, with the assistance of Barack Obama, progressive-left Jewry is likewise virtually silent.<br /><br />The Jewish left will not stand up against those seeking to kill their fellow Jews.<br /><br />They will stand up against the friends of Israel, but never its enemies.<br /><br />I would ask if you do not find that rather odd, but I do not see that you recognize the truth of it.Mike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-14725780567652046382012-10-08T16:47:56.329-07:002012-10-08T16:47:56.329-07:00Aren't the guys who launched the bombs the rea...Aren't the guys who launched the bombs the real bad guys here? Your anger is incredibly misdirected. Stuarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09405170992142157365noreply@blogger.com