tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post7877931810024270824..comments2024-01-02T02:18:30.960-08:00Comments on Israel Thrives: The Big O (Updated)Mike L.http://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-15131031305418239722016-08-22T22:28:52.665-07:002016-08-22T22:28:52.665-07:00OT
This relates to Mike's column for ElderofZi...OT<br />This relates to Mike's column for ElderofZiyon from the previous week, but also to Tablet, the media, and the Clinton campaign. Where I live we were treated to a Clinton ad a few weeks back which showed children supposedly watching Trump on TV. The ad showed Trump making awkward gestures and then would cut to small children sitting in front of the television watching. It was probably one of the lowest campaign ads I had ever seen, and it brings me to mention an article I had seen in Tablet a few months before about the negative impact Donald Trump has on...you guessed it...small children. I just thought I'd share that little story before introducing the following video by Canadian conservative and Jew, Ezra Levant about his take on Trump, Hillary, and Jewish voters in our upcoming presidential election.<br /><br />https://youtu.be/U2G9MR1n7Es<br /> JeffwithaJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07073609950380822171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-53835854717641758682016-08-22T11:05:56.162-07:002016-08-22T11:05:56.162-07:00The self-superiority of these people is evident, b...The self-superiority of these people is evident, but not to compare themselves to Arabs. It is directed against most anyone that does not wear their moral shaded designer glasses.<br /><br />In the proxy war mentioned, the Arab-Israel conflict is secondary, perhaps irrelevant, to the larger one between Marxist and capitalistic ideologies that have occurred in many theaters across the planet.oldschooltwentysixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15672887176887940797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-9066073646192639832016-08-22T10:20:55.199-07:002016-08-22T10:20:55.199-07:00I don't think it's too much of a stretch. ...I don't think it's too much of a stretch. Some Jews and others certainly do use it to flag themselves as superior intellectual and moral beings. <br /><br />Proxy wars of power politics that pit Jews (the "villains") against a "native peasantry" (the "innocent') is certainly nothing new. This was antisemitism even before it was given a name. JeffwithaJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07073609950380822171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-53128130892965597722016-08-21T22:44:23.322-07:002016-08-21T22:44:23.322-07:00One interest is not to allow a Jewish state.
One ...One interest is not to allow a Jewish state.<br /><br />One is not to allow Enlightenment principles to prevail.<br /><br />Both will keep the conflict alive until events cause each to hopefully and finally be rejected.oldschooltwentysixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15672887176887940797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-31432016926261415602016-08-21T20:46:39.050-07:002016-08-21T20:46:39.050-07:00It is the means by which some Jews, particularly i...<i>It is the means by which some Jews, particularly in diaspora, make themselves feel superior to Arabs and Muslims.</i><br /><br />Y'know, what?<br /><br />I think that you are right, School. That comment was a stretch.<br /><br /><i>To lay it at the foot of white privilege morphs the smaller conflict into the larger realm of a Marxist construct, and it becomes a proxy war where the particulars no longer matter.</i><br /><br />That's a very concise way of expressing a central point of the conflict.<br /><br />And to extend your point, it suggests that there is an interest - generally unacknowledged, or even self-acknowledged - in keeping the conflict alive.Mike L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06450806807610560873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-88512297124509693882016-08-21T12:43:11.395-07:002016-08-21T12:43:11.395-07:00The term we're struggling with is 'superna...The term we're struggling with is 'supernal'. In this sense it means a transcendent hatred where Jews exist outside of history, outside or time or place. They are a supernal evil, an enemy like Satan. Who, if even if the peaceful peace loving palestinians of peace were given 150% of everything they ever dreamed of, the Jews would still be punished. <br /><br />It's a paranoid hatred that holds the Jews, even Jews who do not exist, as uniquely responsible for every bad thing that has ever, happens or will happen in the world. It's not sloganeering it's how they think. I think Evelyn Gordon touched on this when she wrote that if there are 3 groups of people; those who hate Israel those who support Israel and those who are on the proverbial fence, there's little to upside to worry about the fence sitters. Daniel Greenfield makes a similar argument - the middle of the road-ers are the moderates who will not fight against the fanatics and so will eventually embrace them. The liberal progressive Jews, the reform Jews who tell me 'oh no one's right or wrong we have to credence to everyone.' are with 100% certainty NEVER going to give the benefit of the doubt to Israel no matter what. What they mean is 'you Jews go 90% over to the Arab view and wait for your next tongue lashing.' They talk a story about fairness and moderation but it's a lie. They never said 'end the "occupation" except for Jerusalem', do they? They never say 'some' Israeli military responses are legitimate, do they? But they do claim that some/many/most Hamas rockets are 'understandable'. <br /><br />There is no point in agreeing with them even 0.001% because their tolerance only goes one way and that's 0.001% you'll never get back. Ever. Empress Trudyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06073538968722986065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-15397722846360404342016-08-21T12:21:43.435-07:002016-08-21T12:21:43.435-07:00It is the means by which some Jews, particularly i...<i>It is the means by which some Jews, particularly in diaspora, make themselves feel superior to Arabs and Muslims.</i><br /><br />Don't get this sense, but that it's more that they actually care about these "dispossessed" more than their Jewishness. In the process they ignore the agency issue, that it excuses people poor behavior because they are incapable. <br /><br /><i>Progressive-left, Democratic-Party-Leaning, navel-gazing, guilt-ridden, white-western, upwardly-mobile, American and European Jews, are so riddled with humanitarian racism that they cannot even begin to imagine that non-Jews "of color" have agency. It seldom occurs to them that non-white people should not be reduced to mere victims of the progressive-left imagination. It seldom occurs to them that by insisting that people "of color" are merely victims of Whitey that they are robbing these people of their dignity.</i><br /><br />There ARE differences in levels of human development. Guess it depends on whether you want to openly say or do so through constructs such as It humanitarian racism. It is also unrealistic to expect POC to live up to our norms, based on the stage of development involved.<br /><br />To address the overall issue, perhaps it's advisable to distinguish the intention of the anti-Israel argument.<br /><br />To lay it at the foot of white privilege morphs the smaller conflict into the larger realm of a Marxist construct, and it becomes a proxy war where the particulars no longer matter.<br /><br />I guess, but for white people, POC would have exceeded the highest ideals of utopia. Without white people there would no violations of human rights. It has me wondering who the smart people really are.oldschooltwentysixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15672887176887940797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-73291082506845121722016-08-20T23:44:02.046-07:002016-08-20T23:44:02.046-07:00It's obvious to me.It's obvious to me. JeffwithaJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07073609950380822171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6579213173749170024.post-61680774418879946242016-08-20T22:28:01.496-07:002016-08-20T22:28:01.496-07:00Of course the problem is Black Lives Matter. It is...Of course the problem is Black Lives Matter. It is a radical Marxist front using the mask of blacks getting killed to further its political agenda. Its latest platform leaves no doubt what it's really all about. Anyone who can't see that truth is moronic or a fellow traveler.Doodadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03349941094682080146noreply@blogger.com