I don't want to do a post about this because it would be too long and I'm tired but thought I'd put this very informative link out there FYI. It asks why Obama is in bed with the Muslim Brotherhood and links to several other interesting articles.
The really sad thing is that this is only 'news' to those who do not live there and have to deal with these deadly assaults all too often. And when it comes to such assaults, even one occurrence is 'too often.'
But many on the left (myself and oldschool, to name just two regulars right here at this blog), those of us who represent the vast majority of mainstream opinion on that side of the aisle, also see right through that bullshit and call it for what it is.
So that's no more fair than smearing any other movement based upon its fringe characters.
I'm aware of that conference, yet the point still stands. What events certain characters at Harvard or Penn manage to hold in their institutions (and when did Harvard become all that is The Left? I've never been there and never will, along with millions of other American leftists) is no more indicative of their movement as a whole than Ron Paul, David Duke or Pat Buchanan are of everyone on their side of the aisle.
Harvard as a whole isn't fringe (ditto Penn), but the jokers running that thing sure are. Even within their own campuses.
If you'd like, I'll even write a piece on it this week taking them to task.
I have to go with Michael on this one, especially among the self-styled progressives.
Although I do not believe the situation is untenable, it is not something to ignore either. More people need to see through it and call it out. It is not just fringe. Many have disproportionate influence from the halo effect.
It also extends past Israel and Jews, to the USA and the West, seen in a negative light, held to theoretical norms that are unrealistic.
In this matter, it is perhaps more important to get progressives to examine the behavior withing theor own circles, such as what will occur at Harvard, rather than obsess over Republicans, over whom there is no control, or others that stand up for liberal, Western values.
Oh, I don't ignore it at all. That's one of the reasons I was tossed from Daily Kos. ;)
Nor do I style myself as a "progressive." I've always had a visceral dislike of that word, and have always thought of myself as a liberal instead. Still do, but that's neither here nor there.
"In this matter, it is perhaps more important to get progressives to examine the behavior withing theor own circles, such as what will occur at Harvard, rather than obsess over Republicans, over whom there is no control, or others that stand up for liberal, Western values."
I agree with this more than you probably know, you'll find no argument at all from me on that. My only issue is with the tarring of an entire side as if we are the only ones who have problems...
please understand that when I say that progressives ignore the rise of radical Islam, I certainly do not mean all progressives.
I certainly do not mean you, for example.
What I am referring to with the broad brush is my perception of the general trend. There are any number of progressives who very much care about Iranian nuclear aspirations or are critical of the so-called "Arab Spring."
So, please do not take this personally.
The truth is that American Jewry, those of us who care about politics, are in a tough spot. Like me, most of us come from the progressive movement, but the movement, itself, refuses to really engage with the problem of political Islam and is not particularly friendly toward Israel, which it often considers a racist, colonialist regime.
None of this is mean, however, as a direct criticism of specific individuals.
It is certainly not meant to be a criticism of your fine self, dude.
The ones that prosecute should be the PA, too.
ReplyDeleteTo think that some say that anyone deserves to be stoned by those with the look of death in their eyes.
FYI here is a reply from the Zombie Mohammed judge to be fair. He's still a dink but....
ReplyDeletehttp://volokh.com/2012/02/25/zombie-mohammed-judge-responds/
He DID utter the words, "I am a Muslim" and that accounts for error.
DeleteRecordings are not allowed, but I suppose this allows the judges to act like this guy did.
It will be interesting to see how this ends.
I'm still shocked.
DeleteI don't want to do a post about this because it would be too long and I'm tired but thought I'd put this very informative link out there FYI. It asks why Obama is in bed with the Muslim Brotherhood and links to several other interesting articles.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.americanthinker.com/2012/02/why_is_obama_in_bed_with_the_muslim_brotherhood.html
The really sad thing is that this is only 'news' to those who do not live there and have to deal with these deadly assaults all too often. And when it comes to such assaults, even one occurrence is 'too often.'
ReplyDeleteSickening.
Well, the thing of it is, many on the left believe that Israeli policy is the reason for Palestinian attacks on Jews in Israel.
DeleteThey see it as legitimate resistance.
Every generation they tell one another that there are very good reason why people try to kill Jews.
The message that is sent is that while 2,000 years of hostility toward Jews was mainly unjustified, this time around it is not.
That's the message, ultimately, and it is a message coming out of our political movement, or my former one, at any rate.
But many on the left (myself and oldschool, to name just two regulars right here at this blog), those of us who represent the vast majority of mainstream opinion on that side of the aisle, also see right through that bullshit and call it for what it is.
DeleteSo that's no more fair than smearing any other movement based upon its fringe characters.
Jay,
DeleteHarvard University is not fringe.
http://www.forward.com/articles/152023/
Harvard is hosting a conference on how to dissolve Israel as a Jewish state.
I'm aware of that conference, yet the point still stands. What events certain characters at Harvard or Penn manage to hold in their institutions (and when did Harvard become all that is The Left? I've never been there and never will, along with millions of other American leftists) is no more indicative of their movement as a whole than Ron Paul, David Duke or Pat Buchanan are of everyone on their side of the aisle.
DeleteHarvard as a whole isn't fringe (ditto Penn), but the jokers running that thing sure are. Even within their own campuses.
If you'd like, I'll even write a piece on it this week taking them to task.
Jay,
DeleteI have to go with Michael on this one, especially among the self-styled progressives.
Although I do not believe the situation is untenable, it is not something to ignore either. More people need to see through it and call it out. It is not just fringe. Many have disproportionate influence from the halo effect.
It also extends past Israel and Jews, to the USA and the West, seen in a negative light, held to theoretical norms that are unrealistic.
In this matter, it is perhaps more important to get progressives to examine the behavior withing theor own circles, such as what will occur at Harvard, rather than obsess over Republicans, over whom there is no control, or others that stand up for liberal, Western values.
Oh, I don't ignore it at all. That's one of the reasons I was tossed from Daily Kos. ;)
ReplyDeleteNor do I style myself as a "progressive." I've always had a visceral dislike of that word, and have always thought of myself as a liberal instead. Still do, but that's neither here nor there.
"In this matter, it is perhaps more important to get progressives to examine the behavior withing theor own circles, such as what will occur at Harvard, rather than obsess over Republicans, over whom there is no control, or others that stand up for liberal, Western values."
I agree with this more than you probably know, you'll find no argument at all from me on that. My only issue is with the tarring of an entire side as if we are the only ones who have problems...
Jay,
Deleteplease understand that when I say that progressives ignore the rise of radical Islam, I certainly do not mean all progressives.
I certainly do not mean you, for example.
What I am referring to with the broad brush is my perception of the general trend. There are any number of progressives who very much care about Iranian nuclear aspirations or are critical of the so-called "Arab Spring."
So, please do not take this personally.
The truth is that American Jewry, those of us who care about politics, are in a tough spot. Like me, most of us come from the progressive movement, but the movement, itself, refuses to really engage with the problem of political Islam and is not particularly friendly toward Israel, which it often considers a racist, colonialist regime.
None of this is mean, however, as a direct criticism of specific individuals.
It is certainly not meant to be a criticism of your fine self, dude.