In a recent comment here at Israel Thrives, Nagaura tells us the following:
Nagaura
August 28, 2012 7:00 AM
You. That being the collective you of this blog are so obtuse it's just amazing. My disagreements have nothing to do with Israel it's existence, citizens, or religion.
They have everything to do with this blog and its supporters who see anyone who aren't in complete compliance your beliefs as enemies of Israel. While I or others may not always agree with Israeli government policy it does not make us enemies of Israel or its people. We are simply on the other side of a particular issue.
Yet, because you are so myopic the ability to see simple disagreement have escaped you.
Finally you will only see what you want to concerning what I've written that is on you.
I want to address two aspects of Nagaura's statement.
The first is this:
They have everything to do with this blog and its supporters who see anyone who aren't in complete compliance your beliefs as enemies of Israel.
This statement is a little unusual in that I have no idea what beliefs that we allegedly, collectively hold that we demand compliance with, lest we conclude that the non-compliant individual is an enemy of Israel. In short, I have no idea what Nagaura is referring to, specifically. We are certainly opposed to anti-Zionism, but no anti-Zionist can credibly claim to be anything but an enemy of Israel.
Having said that, however, I see nothing to indicate that Nagaura is anti-Zionist and therefore, as far as I am concerned, she is more than welcome to participate here and challenge anything that s/he wishes.
While I or others may not always agree with Israeli government policy it does not make us enemies of Israel or its people.
Absolutely. I would never suggest that anyone who disagrees with Israeli government policy is, ipso facto, an enemy of that country. But, again, what policy is Nagaura talking about?
I have been consistent from the beginning in welcoming diversity of opinion in Israel Thrives which is why the regulars here do not even agree among themselves as who to vote for come November and the presidential election.
That being the case, I would invite Naguara to voice his or her concerns so that they can be addressed.
Except that this individual also said:
ReplyDeleteIt's time for you and your supporters to have your Happy Dance.
This kind of put down was unnecessary and reveals contempt. As such, making an endeavor to communicate will likely prove fruitless.
I suppose, but I am willing to give him a chance.
DeleteYet somehow I suspect that the opportunity will be wasted.
DeleteAnd it's looking more and more like you are right.
DeleteOh, well.
Yes, some specifics would be nice. At least Nag has not become enraged and nasty like some who disagree with us. So sure, outline the specifics Nag.
ReplyDeleteAlso, I am in agreement with Oldschool that some contempt was thrown our way with that particular remark.
ReplyDeleteIt's certainly more than a little unusual. As far as I'm aware, this person has only dropped in a few times, and only to call us all racists or murderers. I am unaware of any arguments of substance that they have put forth here, at any time. I mean, unless it's the 'we're racists' thing or the 'happy dance' thing we're supposed to civilly discuss? Which yeah, I'm gonna decline...
ReplyDeleteAs to the post, with regard to the statement:
ReplyDeleteWhile I or others may not always agree with Israeli government policy it does not make us enemies of Israel or its people.
I would ask for some instances of agreement with Israeli government policy.
If there is anything said here that he or she agrees with, what is it?
Is there anything upon which to build, as he or she is not an enemy of Israel or its people?
In candor, if the intent of the individual was positive, I suggest the result was an abysmal failure.
Mike,
ReplyDeletePosting blog posts replying to "comments" such as those by the person to one of whose "comments" this blog post is a reply -- the person "Nagaura" -- is, *at best*, a waste of effort and time.
The following comments are some of the comments by, and replies to those comments by, the person "Nagaura".
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Comment by Nagaura: http://israel-thrives.blogspot.com/2012/04/in-praise-of-jewish-settlers.html?showComment=1335067514280#c4268745971715093455
Reply by you to that comment by Nagaura's: http://israel-thrives.blogspot.com/2012/04/in-praise-of-jewish-settlers.html?showComment=1335068080297#c4710631890742185173
Response by geoffff to that comment by Nagaura: http://israel-thrives.blogspot.com/2012/04/in-praise-of-jewish-settlers.html?showComment=1335150953170#c6625249899382307441
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Comment by Nagaura: http://israel-thrives.blogspot.com/2012/05/nagarua-and-progressive-illiberality.html?showComment=1336231593950#c1406309352572673939
Reply by geoffff to that comment by Nagaura: http://israel-thrives.blogspot.com/2012/05/nagarua-and-progressive-illiberality.html?showComment=1336241868241#c3880409294409616221
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Comment by Nagaura: http://israel-thrives.blogspot.com/2012/06/muslim-brotherhood-wins-egyptian.html?showComment=1340718974225#c907762876910276054
Reply by me to that comment by Nagaura: http://israel-thrives.blogspot.com/2012/06/muslim-brotherhood-wins-egyptian.html?showComment=1340861538633#c5475828059072926821
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Comment by Nagaura: http://israel-thrives.blogspot.com/2012/08/egyptian-editor-charged-with-insulting.html?showComment=1345775270294#c6985716033379503840
Reply by me to that comment by Nagaura: http://israel-thrives.blogspot.com/2012/08/egyptian-editor-charged-with-insulting.html?showComment=1345786785033#c18085265596669522