Tuesday, January 1, 2019

Wampanoag, Geronimo, and Anti-semitism vs. Anti-Zionism

Sar Shalom

When the settlers first arrived in New England, they formed an alliance with the Wampanoag Indians which protected them from other Indian nations of the region and helped them adapt to the territory. In exchange, the settlers agreed to allow the Wampanoag to maintain their traditional religious ways. This agreement held for the first generation of settlers. The children of these settlers reneged on this agreement and started to move the Wampanoag into "praying villages" in order to teach them a proper Christian lifestyle and obliterate the Wampanoag way of life. The Wampanoag responded with what became known as "King Philip's War," which the settlers won and subsequently exterminated much of the Wampanoag community, comparable to what happened to some Jewish communities in Europe during World War II.

Centuries afterward, the United States started settling the southwest territory, including the Apache homeland. While many Apache resigned themselves to accept foreign control of their land, one notable resister was Geronimo. Eventually, federal forces captured Geronimo, ending the Apache resistance against US control of the native land. During the centuries between King Philip's War and conquering the Apache, America had advanced civilizationally such that Geronimo did not suffer King Philip's fate, that of having his head placed on a pike. Instead, Geronimo was merely brought east of the Mississippi where he subsequently became an honored guest at events like Teddy Roosevelt's inaugural and at the St. Louis World's Fair. However, for all the honors Geronimo received in the East, he was never allowed to travel west of Missouri.

With this background, one can now discuss the relationship between anti-Zionism and anti-semitism. Someone can be an anti-Zionist without believing that what was done to the Wampanoag should be done to the Jews. There are those who believe that that should happen, for instance, there was an event where David Horowitz spoke and a woman from the Muslim Students Association challenged him during question and answer. In response, Horowitz asked if she supports or opposes Hezbollah's statement that they welcome the Jews moving to Israel so as to make it easier to eliminate all of international Jewry in one shot, to which she expressed support. However, that is not an essential element of opposing Zionism. One can oppose Zionism and support Jews receiving all the honors that Geronimo received, provided that they receive those honors, as Geronimo did, far away from their homeland. If you hold no amount of honors bestowed on Geronimo justly compensates him for being torn from his homeland, then you must admit that no honors bestowed on Jews in the diaspora removes the stain of anti-semitism from denying the Jews their homeland.

Update: It was David Horowitz, not Richard Landes as initally reported, who exposed the hater from MSA. I have also added a link to the video and specified the organization of Horowitz's challenger.

11 comments:

  1. At a 1937 [CE] lecture to the British Foreign Ministry,
    the King of Saudi Arabia said:


    “Verily, the word of Allah teaches us,
    and we implicitly believe this…
    for a Muslim to kill a Jew...
    ensures him immediate entry into Heaven...”

    SOURCE:
    The Holocaust’s Most Vicious Killers
    by Edwin Black, The Jewish Press,
    2011/1/21, pages 1 and 91.

    PERSONAL COMMENT:
    Notice that those words were spoken BEFORE
    year 1967 CE and BEFORE year 1948 CE.

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  2. Anti zionism is antisemitism.....full stop. Demonic Israel has simply replaced the demonic Jew.

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  3. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. (born 1929, died 1968) said:

    “When people criticize Zionists, they mean Jews.
    You are talking anti-Semitism.”

    SOURCE: The Socialism of Fools:
    The Left, the Jews and Israel

    by Seymour Martin Lipset,
    Encounter magazine, December 1969, page 24

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  4. Wasn't it David Horowitz, not Richard Landes?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmlIJ0mUXKU

    As for the post itself, rather than more stilted comparisons, what is an "essential element of opposing Zionism" that you refer to?

    Although in theory one can be anti-Zionist and not antisemitic, that is clearly not how it plays out in reality, and Geronimo's story has little to do with the reality.

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    1. Thank you for the correction. I'll edit the post.

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    2. In case you didn't get it, I am using Geronimo's story to show that anti-Zionism is antisemitism. While it provides no reason that someone who thinks that Geronimo's treatment was reasonable should equate the two, I suspect that a substantial portion of those who either claim to be anti-Zionist but not antisemitic or justify those who do would not qualify.

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    3. You are too kind Sar. I would suggest not a substantial portion but ALL, whether they know it or not. You can't just call for the elimination of sovereign rights for only Jews and then claim not to be antisemitic. It doesn't compute

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    4. I would agree that ALL opponents of Jewish sovereignty in the Jewish homeland are Judeophobes. I just don't have the argument yet to show it. My use of "substantial portion" is a reference to those believing that barring Geronimo from ancestral Apache land is anti-Apache bigotry. This post argues that those in that group who oppose Jewish self-determination are Judeophobes but says nothing about anyone not in that group. I say nothing about why someone who accepts denying Geronimo his homeland can oppose Zionism without being Judeophobic, but I would support the effort to make such a case.

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  5. I have never had the least attention for hair splitting nonsense. A racist and a bigot doesn't get to qualify the precise nature of their hatreds. This isn't a sort of pregnant scenario.

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  6. http://hurryupharry.org/2019/01/03/protesters-target-jewish-shop-owner-in-san-francisco/

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  7. Gad Saad

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83dXv5rNwsg

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