Saturday, June 23, 2018

L.E.G.A.L.

Michael Lumish

It is as if they do not understand the political implications of open borders. Open borders means the elimination of the international system of nation-states. The elimination of nation-states means at least three possibilities: anarchism, communism, or corporatism.

Anarchism would suggest an international series of loosely connected cooperatives.

Communism would suggest a single worldwide government. {Oh joy.}

Corporatism, in the manner of my usage, would suggest rule by corporations.

In any case, when people break the law and are caught they are often separated from their friends, family, and children. If a person does not wish for this to happen it might be better not to commit the crime.

But my feelings on this issue have much to do with my own family history. My father was born in the Ukraine, a town called Medzybush. They fled the pogroms of the early 1920s and although they had relatives in Brooklyn, failed to gain visas into the United States.

They went to Argentina where my grandfather died.

A year or so later the visas came thru and my father passed thru Ellis Island in the arms of my grandmother Sarah.

They had nothing.

She literally mopped floors at the Jewish Orphan Asylum where my father slept.

But they did it LEGALLY.

And it worked.

38 comments:

  1. I think what we are closest to right now is #3 with #'s1 & 3 driving the narrative.
    #1 wants us to head towards #2 (and a number 2 it is, if ya know what I mean), whereas #3 only looks at things quarterly.

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  2. 1. Destroy Trump/Repubs
    2. Get new Dem voters.

    REGARDLESS the cost. Dollars and lives.

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  3. https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Column-One-The-peril-of-politicized-antisemitism-560599

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  4. It's a fake issue. There were no tears in 2014 when it was worse. It was used as a deterrent back then, too. Hopefully, people see through it and those screaming "Nazi" and the like will hurt rather than help their mission to impose their values on us all.

    Open borders implies open in both directions. But there's no flood going from the first to third world. Who wants to live in those places, for many reasons. Not even the proponents of open borders, from the security of their spaces where they can dissent to their hearts' content. Why do people want to come HERE anyway?

    The nation state has been shown as the best mechanism to deliver human rights and development. There are so many solutions to problems that could help people. One would be those that steal money designed to help people escape poverty.

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  5. Microchip, cheek swab and print all illegals and send them all to California and New York. Whenever they are detected outside their designated states they will be returned. No deportation, no hearings, no courts, no detention, no nothing. Put them on buses and ship them off. Whether it's 11 Million or 14 or 30. They want to be there those states want them without restriction. It's win win. Continue with the wall but exclude California

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  6. So apparently you have no problem with sending back the people on board the St. Louis, the ship of fools, because they didn't have visas. That they were sent back to die is just following the law. In 1933, Jews could get out of Europe, but since they didn't have visas, their death is just hunky dory because they didn't have visas. Of course, we could have authorized more visas (we didn't even give out the ones that were authorized), but an invasion of Jews would have totally changed America, so if there deaths were really in the best interests of America. Central America is worse for the United States because while we didn't create the monstrosity that was Nazi Germany, we did create the monstrosity that is Central America. Try reading Smedley Butler or the Harvard Review of Latin America states https://revista.drclas.harvard.edu/book/united-states-interventions Or try reading the Torah which says at least 36 times to take care of strangers. Or notice the commandment NOT to return a slave to his master, and recognize that refugees from Central America are in worse position that slaves since a master is unlikely to kill a slave, but the gangs of Central America do kill the people there. And by the way, check out Jose Miguel Cruz on the origins of MS-15. But ignoring all that, it is in our interest to improve the lives of Mexicans and Central Americans if we don't want them to continue coming here. And Trump has made it clear that he wants their lives to be worse.

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    1. The mother of the 2 year old poster girl was not only not separated, but not fleeing much of anything. Comparing the plight of MIGRANTS to the Jews fleeing Nazis and actual genocide is pathetic.

      The outrage of progressives falls flat. Obama did worse and not a peep.

      We have improved the lives of our neighbors, but they make their own decisions. We don't make them corrupt. We have more legal immigration than anyone. And what do you say to Americans who have been victimized by illegals?

      You want open borders?

      The projection about what Trump wants is absurd. Trump is actually trying to fix the mess. It's the established parties that created it and use these people as pawns. But some will find fault no matter what Trump does, isn't that right?

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    2. He wants open borders.
      About now, Joseph should be getting happy about the Trump presidency. This stuff has been going on for a while but the "news" media never noticed because they were too busy kissing President Obama's...ring.
      Now, thanks to the media's (and Joseph's) unbridled and unhinged hatred for Trump, it is getting attention.
      Had Hillary won, no one would notice all those kids wrapped in tin foil.

      BTW, most places where the US intervened at one time or another sucked even before we got there.

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  7. QUESTION:

    Why does the Democratic Party love immigrants?

    ANSWER:

    The reason why the USA’s Democratic Party favors immigrants, even illegal immigrants, is because they believe that immigrants will vote for the Democratic Party.

    If the leaders of the Democratic Party believed that immigrants would vote for the Republican Party, then they would do everything possible to prevent immigrants from entering the USA, even legal immigrants.

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    1. Despite what you hear on right wing news, illegal immigrants do not vote. In fact, non-citizens rarely vote, illegal voting is so rare that when it does happen, it makes headlines. The problem is creating barriers for citizens to vote.

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    2. By the way, Rabbi Marc Angel says that Maimonides was modern orthodox, I think he would have been a progressive Jew.

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    3. Joseph,
      Which right wing news outlets do you frequent?

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  8. And what about those who do EXACTLY what the law says you should and still receive that treatment? I refer to those who show up at official border crossings and announce that they are there to apply for asylum.

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    1. There are 9 US consulates and a US embassy in Mexico.

      You don't spend thousands and thousands of dollars to a "coyote" to sneak you thru the border.

      Ciudad Juárez, Guadalajara, Hermosillo, Matamoros, Merida, Monterrey, Nogales, Nuevo Laredo and Tijuana all have consulates where people can apply for asylum. The US embassy, naturally, is in Mexico City.

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  9. Not everyone is a refugee by any stretch of the imagination. That threshold is and should be very high and very narrow. Someone escaping a wife beater or a bad economy isn't a refugee, they're migrants of opportunity. Whereas a million Vietnamese boat people faced death by staying, a million Venezuelans do not. We aren't the world's social workers nor should we be. The social political economic and legal problems of Central America are no better nor worse than most of the rest of the world. They happen to live close enough to a country (Mexico) that has an interest in pushing them along to another country (USA) which won't or can't turn them back. And to be honest, not even the Cubans are refugees. It's politically useful to poke the Cuban government in the eye. Most so called refugees are economic migrants, who, if the UN were true to its own principles would move heaven and earth to return them there just like the so called 'palestinians'. Meanwhile if I were the US government I would call their bluff and demand that the UN create refugee camps for all these 'refugees' trying to get into the US. I recommend Cuba and Bolivia for the sites.

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  10. Joseph, illegal immigrants can sometimes eventually become citizens.

    When that happens, the expected outcome is that they vote for Democrats.

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    1. It was obvious what you said, but the tired defense keeps getting trotted out because it's easier for critics to make it mean something else and perpetuate their memes.

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  11. In California, several hospitals have closed-down permanently because they went bankrupt because they were forced to give free treatments to illegal immigrants who have no insurance and no ability to pay and do not pay taxes.

    Political Leftists love to talk about compassion for immigrants. But where is their compassion for the California residents who lost their local hospitals? Those California residents do not count in the eyes of the Political Leftists because they are not high enough on the Hierarchy of Victimhood, as defined by the Political Leftists.

    In other locations, life-long citizens of the USA who pay taxes may be forced to endure delays in receiving their medical treatments because hospital employees gave higher priority to treating illegal immigrants who do not pay the hospital and do not pay taxes.

    Dear G*D, please forgive me for wasting the precious time that You Gave to me, by attempting to reason with Political Leftists, who cannot be reasoned with because they are totally brainwashed and because they are totally irrational and because they never listen to anything non-Leftists say to them.

    Dear G*D, please forgive me for wasting the precious time that You Gave to me, by attempting to reason with Political Leftists, which is like attempting to reason with a brick wall.

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    1. What hospitals? Hospitals normally don't ask for the citizenship of patients, so the story is immediately suspect? Besides, the Torah commands us to take care of the strangers in our midst, so for us Jews taking care of illegal immigrants would be a mitzvah. And citizenship takes at least five years for legal immigrants. For the undocumented, the process would necessarily be longer. And why precisely would a new citizen necessarily vote for Democrats?

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    2. They run out of money. In the Inland Empire in California 90% of medical services that would otherwise be delivered by a GP are serviced out the ER. In the meantime they can't service people who actually wheeled in for critical care. And ambulance services have essentially come to a halt unless you can pay up front.

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    3. I am unaware of this story. Am I to understand that reasonable people are claiming that hospitals have closed down in California due to the economic and human resource pressure placed upon them by illegal migrants?

      Is that true?

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    4. 84 California Hospitals Close Unpaid Bills Illegals

      http://www.topix.com/forum/city/orlando-fl/T7B39AK3FIMQB098C

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  12. In 2008, Colorado separated a Jewish boy from his parents.

    Marten Kudlis was separated from his parents while waiting for his mother to bring him his ice cream. The 3-year-old boy who had just been playing in the park never got his ice cream.

    Instead Francis Hernandez, an illegal alien driving 81 miles an hour, slammed into a pickup truck, killing the two women inside, and smashing it through the glass wall of the Baskin Robbins.

    Blood and broken glass covered the floor. Little Marten, who had just learned to ride a bike, died of a slashed jugular vein and was buried with a teddy bear.

    Francis Hernandez had been arrested 16 times in 5 years without ever being turned over to immigration authorities. That failure to enforce immigration law separated a little boy from his family forever.

    http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/

    NEVER reported to immigration officials. NEVER. And that's what Dems/the left wants on a grand scale. Nothing moral about that.

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    1. Anecdotes are not evidence that immigrants, legal or illegal, are any more likely to drive recklessly than native-born Americans. If you're not making that claim, what's the point of your comment? If you are, you're doing exactly what the anti-Semites do in pointing to every misdeed done by a Jew and say, "See, that's what Jews are like."

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    2. The comparison falls short. It's not about immigrants or Jews, but illegals. The act could not occur in the first instance unless the person was illegally present.

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    3. There is a great deal of evidence that people w/o licences and insurance do in fact cause more accidents because they will never be required to foot the bill. Again, in central California, almost 80% of all car accidents involve a hit and run. An illegal hits you and drives off. Why not.

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    4. "It is as if they do not understand the political implications of open borders."
      Mike, they don't even think about it.

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    5. The point, Sar, quite obviously as evidenced by MY comment after the quoted article, was that the guy was NOT once reported to immigration officials. If he had been, a life might have been saved. He SHOULD have been reported; he should have been deported. To suggest I was making any other claim is offensive.

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  13. “So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don’t even know that fire is hot.” Orwell

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    1. Yes, Orwell saw through them even as he was one of them. It's a main reason why no one should follow their views.

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    2. I'm pretty much done with Sam Harris. (See the video.)

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    3. Sam Harris despises Donald Trump.

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    4. I can understand all kinds of personal animosity but I don't get with Trump is how classist and shallow the hatred against him is. Critics can't make up their minds if they hate him because he's rich or because he's blunt or he's uncouth or he's from NYC or a million other things. Meanwhile Michael Bloomberg, the 8th richest man on the planet will probably make a stab at 2020. He's a 'New Yorker' - actually an old left wing Jew from Boston. What are these same people going to say about him and his DEEP roots to Wall St? Mind you a self made billionaire. But are we going to see all sorts of yelling about his tax returns? He's divorced and in a 'domestic partnership with a woman. And he's 76 today? Are we going to hear about how he throws his $52 billion dollars around (10x what Trump is worth)?

      Point is, it's unclear why people hate Trump other than they hate him because the TV tells them to.

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    5. "Sam Harris despises Donald Trump."

      Ya think? :0)
      It's just that he is coming from such an emotional place and masking it with rational low tones. He is glossing over Obama's failings. (Read Trudy's timely post. I'm sure you have.) At one point he begins to say that even if things go well, Trump is awful. For a neuroscientist who stakes his reputation on rational argument, his comments must leave one wondering. Despite his delivery he doesn't really make a good case, but instead is flinging mud in the air. Obama's tan suit vs. Stormy Daniels? Is he kidding?
      When I hear him talk this way he is doing to himself that which a number of people I used to respect have done to themselves.

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  14. Who woulda thunk it? Now the SCOTUS is racist.

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    1. That's right. Even the Supreme Court as final arbiter of constitutionality need not be respected in the slightest. It just needs to be purged. So say the screamers.

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  15. "A writer for TBS’s “Full Frontal with Samantha Bee” went off on a Twitter rant Monday, saying that “civility is a tool of white supremacy.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/26/samantha-bee-writer-civility-white-supremacy/

    I am honestly left speechless by this. Heaven help the US if this becomes a viral meme.

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    1. Of course, Dr. King's movement was based on civility and non-violence.
      This is what happens when you give up teaching history for 30 years and replace it with Cultural Marxist agitprop. The result is unhinged, ignorant unfunny comedy writers writing unfunny jokes for unfunny comediennes, and venting their ignorant "feelings" on Twitter.

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