Tuesday, March 18, 2014

Violence is Coming

Michael L.

{Cross-posted at Jews Down Under and the Times of Israel.}

In a piece for Commentary entitled Lying About Abbas Won’t Bring Peace, Jonathan Tobin writes the following:
war1.png - image uploaded to PicamaticIn short, peace process advocates believe the only way to plow ahead to an agreement is to keep the pressure up on Netanyahu to give the maximum while treating Abbas with kid gloves, all the while fearing to offend him or to give his enemies within Fatah, not to mention Hamas and Islamic Jihad rivals, any ammunition with which to attack him as soft on the Israelis. Anything else, they tell us, risks blowing up the process leaving no hope for peace.

But the problem here isn’t so much the double standard for Netanyahu or even the blatant dishonesty involved in American and Israeli officials attesting to the sincerity and good intentions of the Palestinian leader. It’s that this theory of peace negotiating has already been tried and failed with disastrous results.

I know it’s hard for many in the mainstream media to think back as far as last week or last month (ancient history in the news business), let alone 10, 15, or 20 years back. But the theory of negotiating with the Palestinians that is being employed by both the Obama administration and Israelis like Livni and Peres, was already tried in the 1990s.

We've already been down this road and we know where it leads.  It leads to a terror war against the Jewish people of the Middle East.  It leads to Jewish and Arab blood in the streets.  One place that the so-called "peace process" will not lead, sadly, is to peace.  The Arabs do not want peace, what they want is victory and until that victory is attained they will continue to do whatever they can possibly do to make life miserable for Jewish people on historically Jewish land.

It has to be understood, however, that this is nothing new.  The Arab-Muslim majority in the Middle East has made life difficult for the indigenous Jewish population since they conquered that land shortly after the death of Muhammad in the 7th century and placed us under subjugation.

What we are witnessing today is a small slice of a much longer process of displacement and persecution which has been ongoing for centuries, resulting in the decimation of the Jewish population in that part of the world.  The Jews of the Middle East today are the surviving remnant of a harassed and diminished minority that has been despised by the Islamic world since the Jews rejected the testament of Muhammad.

Tobin concludes:
The point here is that we have already seen this movie and know the ending. If the president is sincere about wanting to broker peace, he needs to lay it on the line and make sure Abbas knows that the U.S. will blame him–and not an Israel that has already signaled that it will, albeit with misgivings, agree to Kerry’s framework–for the collapse of the talks. But if the president continues to double down on a policy of letting the Palestinians off the hook, it is laying the groundwork for a repeat of the same disaster that ended the Oslo process. The resulting bloodshed should be blamed primarily on Abbas. But Obama, and those Israelis who continue to lie about Abbas for what they believe is the sake of peace, will also bear some responsibility.
The current American administration will not in any meaningful way pressure Fatah because to do so would violate progressive-left presumptions concerning who has power and who does not and thus who should be threatened and who should be sheltered.  It is for ideological reasons that Barack Obama refuses to pressure the Palestinian-Arabs into making peace with the indigenous Jews.

Despite the fact that around half the Israeli-Jewish population is non-Ashkenazi, and thus not "white," the western Left, including the Obama administration, tend to see Jewish Israelis, at best, as a dominating power, or, at worst, as a foreign imperial power continuing the nineteenth-century European tradition of imperial exploitation that employs methods akin to those of Nazi Germany.

Pressuring the Arab majority to end their never-ending siege against the Jewish minority is considered "racist," which is why the Obama administration will never do it.

Pressuring the Jewish minority into agreeing to what it has always agreed to - sharing the land - is considered a matter of social justice.  Thus the Obama administration pressures the Jews of the Middle East into accepting what they have always accepted and until they accept what they already accept he will keep the pressure on.

What we are looking at here, my friends, is a sucker's game and we're the suckers.


  1. I'm beginning to wonder if we may not soon see a scenario in which Putin punks the West in Crimea and possibly other parts of Ukraine, and in order to try to save face, the West then turns around and puts the screws to the Jews... I mean, becomes even more deeply involved in 'the peace process'... etc etc.

    Such a scenario might also present an opening for Israel, however. The whole "declare defensible final borders, toss keys to the rest over shoulder" thing, which is the only possible realistic outcome I see to end this stage of the conflict during any of our lifetimes.

    After that, rocket attacks upon Israel become a clear act of war from a neighboring nation, to be dealt with harshly, and in a very serious manner.

    It sucks all around, really, but on the other hand it is quite literally insane, by a certain well-known definition, to keep doing the same thing over and over and over again while hoping for a different outcome 'this time.'

    1. I agree, Jay, and the implication is that it is time to move on from Oslo.

      What we need to acknowledge is that there is not going to be a negotiated conclusion of hostilities with either Hamas or the PA.

      What we need to think about, it seems to me, is the likely fall-out of the failure of talks.

      The entire Muslim world, pretty much all of Europe, and the American Left, will blame Israel for the failure of peace talks.

      What that means will be an increase in BDS activity and a ramping up of the hatred.


    2. Mike and Jay,

      “...and the American Left, will blame Israel for the failure of peace talks.”

      "What that means will be an increase in BDS activity and a ramping up of the hatred."

      But not if Israel and Jewish people everywhere simply state the facts that are presented in the following documentaries, and stop working with and supporting Fatah-PLO:


      "Traces the history of PLO/Fatah, now better known as the 'Palestinian Authority,' the organization that will govern a future Palestinian State. The video shows how PLO/Fatah emerged from the German Nazi Final Solution. Hajj Amin al Husseini, father of the Palestinian Movement, creator of Fatah, and mentor to Yasser Arafat and Mahmoud Abbas, was co-director with Adolf Eichmann of the death camp system that exterminated between 5 and 6 million European Jews in WWII."


      "The video dispels certain myths concerning the origin of the name 'Palestine' and of the 'Arab Palestinians.' It documents that the 'Arab Palestinians' are in fact mostly from other places, and migrated to what is now Israel at the same time as the Zionist Jews, many of them because of the economic boom that the Zionist Jews produced in what was then British Mandate Palestine. The Zionist Jews did not steal the 'best' land from Arab landowners but in fact purchased abandoned desert and swamp land from absentee Arab landlords who were quite eager to sell. This was explained by Hajj Amin al Husseini himself. Husseini, father of the Palestinian movement, launched his fourth terrorist attack against the Jews of the Mandate in 1936-39. The violence was so great that the British sent a team to investigate. When questioned, Husseini admitted that the Zionist Jews had not stolen anybody's land but in fact had bought it. In fact, Husseini had been among the major consolidators and sellers of land, and growing tremendously rich by it."

      I feel like saying that for the life of me I simply don't know why Jewish people -- and, most importantly, the leaders of Israel -- simply don't state these facts (over and over, as needed; firmly, as needed; clearly, as needed) and why Jewish people keep on working with and supporting Fatah and pretending/believing that Fatah-PLO are "Peace-Partners" and that Fatah-PLO are not what they, in fact, are. But I know why Jewish people are doing what they are doing. But it's frustrating to me.

      Working with working with, and supporting, Fatah-PLO is not set in stone. Nothing is set in stone. If something is not working do something else (I have to take my own advice and apply that to my own life). If one realizes that one has made a mistake, stop doing that mistake (and I have to apply that to my own life).

      As Jay alluded to:

      “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”

  2. All I can say is that Palestinians and their lovers should thank the stars that Putin is not in command of Israel. Can you imagine?

    1. Excellent point. Or Reagan. Or Bush I . Or Bush II. Or Kennedy. Or ...

    2. Or any US president. If Mexico decided tomorrow that its entire reason for being is to destroy the United States, there would be no Mexico by the weekend.

      Not a perfect parallel by any means, but I'm pretty sure not even in the Bizzaro Universe where Dennis Kucinich became president, would he put up with even half the nonsense Israel and its leaders are somehow expected to for an imaginary 'peace' with an implacable enemy.