Friday, August 7, 2015

The Syrian dead and basic human ethics

Michael L.

Sometimes the best posts are very brief and to the point.

The Elder has such a piece entitled, 5000 killed in Syria every month.

And that, really, is all you need to know.

According to conservative scholar, Daniel Pipes, the total dead from the Arab-Israel conflict between 1950 and the early part of the twenty-first century is around fifty-one thousand people, ranking it number 49 among significant conflicts in terms of war dead.  My understanding is that about two-thirds were Arab and one-third Jewish.

Between 1949 and 1976, the Red Chinese under Mao killed around forty million people.

40 million.

Ponder that for a moment, if you will.

Part of the problem that we have is that our opponents seem to have no sense of ethical proportionality.

They claim to stand for social justice and universal human rights, yet it is the Jews that they spit hatred towards.

How many are dead in the Syrian conflict?

Between two hundred and three hundred thousand within just the last few years,


  1. Theory changes but conclusion is constant, Used to be Christ killers theory, non European subhumans theory, subversive Communists theory, and greedy Banksters theory. Progressives condemn these wrong headed theories of the past, but how can you ignore the Occupation, apartheid and deliberate murder of children.

  2. To be fair, the left have never been concerned with actual body- counts.
    They have only been concerned with who is 'responsible', and in the name of what cause.

    You can get invited to the smartest dinner parties in London whilst being a Maoist.

    Not that different in America; for the intelligentsia that is.

    Google the " New Left" on Wiki.
    It's a long read but not without interest.

    Here's Brendan O'Neill with an interesting take on the West and Israel.

    1. Sorry! Edit.
      In the first Brendan O'Neill link it should read " newsite" not " newsfile"

  3. The great Robert Conquest died this week at the age of 98. Martin Amis’ book Koba the Dread: Laughter and the Twenty Million (New York: Hyperion, 2002) starts with the following quotation from Conquest’s The Harvest of Sorrow: Soviet Collectivization and the Terror-Famine: “We may perhaps put this in perspective in the present case by saying that the actions here recorded about twenty human lives were lost for, not every word , but every letter in this book.” And Amis adds wryly: “That sentence represents 3,040 lives. The book is 411 pages long.”

    1. Indeed.
      R.I.P Robert Conquest.
      A truly great historian.

      There have been several splendid obituaries over here, I'm glad to say.

      And quite an interesting blog post here:

    2. Corrected link:

    3. Sorry about that. Again.

      Randall, thank you!
      Much appreciated.

    4. No problem. Very interesting site, too.

  4. You could substitute the name of practically any other country on earth. Dead don't matter, period. Unless they are so called 'palestinians'. This is why I adopt a purely Machiavellian approach and am, as someone who admitted does not have skin in the game, say the Israelis should break off most Yesha and tell the Arabs to do whatever they like with it. Let them run a failed state. It's not as if the HRWs and AIs of the world won't still rake in millions of dollars a year by screaming it's the Jews fault if something goes awry in 'palestine' anyhow. That's a given and not something anyone should shy away from. Same with Gaza. End all restrictions such as they are, to sea borne travel, close off the border with Israel and walk away. Let them sort it out for themselves and declare Gaza and 'palestine' are their own countries but that as independent nations, attacks on Israel will be dealt with the same as any other event where one country attacks another on its border. End all work permits for 'palestinians', set out a timetable to end all electricity, gas, water, phone etc. services which are effectively for free. Who knows, maybe it will work out for the Arabs. But it's no one's primary concern but theirs. Perhaps the EU can send a million unemployed people to 'palestine' and Gaza to run things for them on the EU's dime. Just allow the Arabs to outsource every single widget that independent nations do, to a cadre of activist Europeans who can do all the work for the 'palestinians'. Rotate them out every few years like the Peace Corps and run all the funding through a new agency that doesn't require the Arabs to touch money or run their own affairs. A million Europeans are put to productive work on the public dole, a la Workfare and everyone's happy with the new Arab state. When the Arabs decide to murder Jews,respond in kind and if blonde blue eyed Scandanavian civil servants get killed in the exchange, so what? They blame the Jews for the weather, they may as well blame the Jews for defending themselves too.

    1. Not for the first time, I very much appreciate the way that you think.