Friday, June 29, 2012

Brief Notes: Absolute Stupidity



Mike L.

There is something profoundly wrong with our engagement, as Jews, in the larger world.

That is, there is something profoundly wrong with the fact that although we represent a tiny, historically persecuted minority, it is considered "racist" or "Islamophobic" on the progressive-left to point out the fact of genocidal anti-Jewish racism within Islam.

Islam represents 1.5 billion people. If even a single percent of those people hold to radical Islam then a greater number of Muslims hold to an ideology with murderous intention toward us than the entire Jewish population world-wide.

Yet, in some circles I am considered a racist for daring to notice this problem and to articulate it as a problem.

The stupidity, given our history, of condemning a Jew for noticing genocidal intentions toward Jews couldn't be more profound.

We cannot protect ourselves from what is a very dangerous problem if "progressives" consider it immoral to even notice the problem.

The stupidity, or perhaps ideological blinkeredness, is just absolute... unfathomable, really.

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  1. Not only that, but amongst all too many 'progressives,' who are otherwise so keenly attuned to all kinds of offensive dog-whistles against so many other groups of people (a very admirable quality, imo), so many of those very same folks (this phenomenon often plays out on blogs like Daily Kos, HuffPo, &c) suddenly start singing a quite different tune when confronted with historically deadly antisemitic memes like ZOG and whatnot. Even when they're set straight by many Jews.

    So many of them always seem to be able to find a way to excuse it as simple 'criticism of Israel,' and their reply to our concerns all too often comes back along the lines of - "Shut up, that's not offensive. We'll tell you when you're allowed to be offended." Truly sickening. And that just can't be chalked up to stupidity. That, in fact, is reprehensible bigotry.

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    1. We have several problems, Jay.

      The first is the kind of genocidal Jew hatred that is all too common in the Arab-Muslim Middle East. In Europe it is bad. In the US, Canada, Australia it is not.

      In the Middle East it is absolutely murderous.

      A second problem that we have is that the western-left either supports radical Islam, as we are seeing with western support for the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, or it is simply indifferent. It would be as if Qaeda or Hamas had taken over that country. In fact, as anyone should know if they wish to spout off on this issue, Qaeda and Hamas are Muslim Brotherhood offshoots.

      That's just a simple fact.

      And, finally, we have the problem of western-progressives, including Jewish "Zionist" progressives, who think that even mentioning radical Islamic Jew hatred is a form of racism.

      How's that for a kick in the head?

      But, you know what? I am not worried about us. I mean, I am not worried about American Jews or Australian Jews or Canadian Jews. I am, however, very concerned about our other half in Israel.

      They are absolutely surrounded by hatred and violence and much of the world, including American progressives, think that those Jews richly deserve whatever they get.

      This is what we see on a daily basis on dkos, the Huffpost, the Guardian, even TIME magazine. This is what is said on a daily basis throughout the western academe. They perpetually tell one another that Israel is an evil, racist, colonialist, imperialist, apartheid regime.

      You have to have brass balls to stand up and say, "NO," because no one wants to hear it and they will make you pay in various ways for standing the fuck up.

      This is why I got in Mets' face a little.

      Our problem is NOT the friggin' Westboro Baptist Church... nor the friggin' Klan... nor idiot Neo-Nazi Skin-Head dopes.

      Our problem is the people who continue to shoot rockets at S'derot and their western progressive allies who tell the world how it is that those Jews deserve it.

      We have got to stop supporting venues that hold us in contempt.

      That's what I say.

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    2. Point taken. Although I would also note, that as you already said, we do have several problems, and neo-Nazi scum in America should definitely be included amongst the foremost of them, as well. Especially for those who are unfortunate enough to have groups of them nearby...

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    3. Fair enough.

      I do not want to overstate my case... which is my tendency, I think.

      I am now off to the city for some pizza and low stakes Hold 'Em with Laurie and friends.

      Cheers!

      You guys have a great weekend and a peaceful Sabbath.

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  2. Ever hear of the Muslim Sisterhood? Well......

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/06/27/Why-Is-Sec-Clinton-Giving-Hundreds-of-Millions-of-U-S-Dollars-to-the-Muslim-Brotherhood

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  3. BTW, what is the Egyptian MB's President biggest first concern?


    "Mohamed Morsi vows to free blind sheikh jailed in US

    During rousing speech in Tahrir Square, Egypt's president-elect promises to work to free Omar Abdel-Rahman"

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/29/mohamed-morsi-sheikh-us?newsfeed=true

    Now wouldn't that be a kick in the teeth if his best buddy Obama helped out with that one?

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  4. "No issue unites the Muslim world more than venomous, murderous hatred of Jews." Caroline Glick

    http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnists/Article.aspx?id=275677

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  5. Mike one point only.

    Islam is not a race. Therefore one cannot be a racist if one condemns it.

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    1. Indeed.

      I think that the main question being discussed, but only on the right, is whether the problem is Islam, in general, or "radical Islam."

      The left, sadly, will not acknowledge the problem, period, and therefore has nothing to say.

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    2. O The British Mandate of Palestine included what is now Jordan.
      O There were more Jewish refugees from Muslim states than there were Arab refugees from Israel.
      O All of those refugees -- Jewish and Arab -- were caused by a self-declared intendedly genocidal "Jihad" attack on Israel by Muslim Arab states in 1948.
      O Jordan occupied Judea (Yehouda) and Sameria (Shomron) from 1949 to 1967, and Jordan renamed Judea and Sameria to the name "The West Bank" -- referring to Judea and Sameria as "the west bank" of the Jordan river.
      O Egypt occupied what is now called "The Gaza Strip" from 1949 until 1967.
      O Between the years 1949 and 1967, the leaders of Muslim Arab states, and the leaders of what, in the 1960's, came to be called the 'Palestinian movement', made no effort to establish any so-called 'Palestinian' Arab state in what Jordan renamed to the name "The West Bank" and in what is now called "The Gaza Strip"; and the PLO Charter, from the time of the founding of the PLO in 1964 until 1968, stated that what had then come to be called "The West Bank", and which is now called "The West Bank", and what had then come to be called "The Gaza Strip", and which is now called "The Gaza Strip", was not part of what the PLO Charter called "the Zionist" "occupation" of "Palestine".
      O The founder of the 'Palestinian movement', Amin al-Husseini, was a co-architect of the Nazi 'Final Solution'

      Just this -- what the hell is so difficult to understand about this?

      And what the hell is so difficult to understand that this needs to be communicated -- screamed from the rooftops?

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      Why Are These Facts Not Well Known?
      http://danielbielak.blogspot.com/2012/04/why-are-these-facts-not-well-known_04.html

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    3. The Secret War Against the Jews, by John Loftus and Mark Aarons
      http://books.google.com/books/about/The_secret_war_against_the_Jews.html?id=trU7nY-T-4EC

      "The authors demonstrate that numerous Western countries, especially the United States and Great Britain, have conducted repeated and willful spying missions on Palestine and later Israel over many decades. While on the surface these two countries and others profess to be ardent allies of Israel, they work, in fact, through their intelligence services to betray Israel's secrets to the Arabs. Their motive: oil and multinational profits, which must be attained at any price through international covert policies. To understand the duplicitous nature of the West's diplomatic relations with Israel, the authors contend that one must understand the history that begins after the end of World War I with the sordid Mideast exploits of a British diplomat, Jack Philby. They then proceed into a detailed discussion of the boardrooms of American and English bankers and lawyers who had strong connections with Nazi leaders and Arab oil tycoons in the 1930s prior to the outbreak of World War II. ..."

      America's Nazi Secret: An Insider's History, by John Loftus, 2010
      http://www.amazon.com/Americas-Nazi-Secret-Insiders-History/dp/1936296047

      "Fully revised and expanded, this stirring account reveals how the U.S. government permitted the illegal entry of Nazis into North America in the years following World War II. This extraordinary investigation exposes the secret section of the State Department that began, starting in 1948 and unbeknownst to Congress and the public until recently, to hire members of the puppet wartime government of Byelorussia—a region of the Soviet Union occupied by Nazi Germany. A former Justice Department investigator uncovered this stunning story in the files of several government agencies, and it is now available with a chapter previously banned from release by authorities and a foreword and afterword with recently declassified materials. ..."

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      Note:

      John Loftus was a U.S. Justice Department federal prosecutor who had above Top Secret security clearance in the U.S. government.

      Jack Philby was a British government official, and was a self-professed Socialist, and was one of the main administrators of the British Mandate of Palestine, and converted to Islam in 1930, and, with his friend Allen Dulles, provided petroleum from Muslim Arab states to the Nazi regime of Germany during the 1930's.

      Allen Dulles was an U.S. government official who, after World War II, founded the CIA.

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    4. On the European Left as it had come to be just even in 2002:

      Sull Antisemitismo - Io trovo vergognoso (Vergognosi gli attacchi a Israele) (On Antisemitism - I find it shameful (Shameful attacks on Israel)), by Oriana Fallaci, 12 April 2002

      An audio recording of a reading of the article by Oriana Fallaci:

      Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS9Dl5YEy3o
      Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anTPuAQ1oUU

      The text of the article:

      http://www.oerby.dk/sider/Oriana%20Fallaci.htm

      "I find it shameful that in Italy there should be a procession of individuals dressed as suicide bombers who spew vile abuse at Israel, hold up photographs of Israeli leaders on whose foreheads they have drawn the swastika, incite people to hate the Jews.

      "And who, in order to see Jews once again in the extermination camps, in the gas chambers, in the ovens of Dachau and Mauthausen and Buchenwald and Bergen-Belsen et cetera, would sell their own mother to a harem. ..."

      Read it all

      Note: Oriana Fallaci was a journalist, and a Leftist, and, during the 1940's, was a Partisan fighter against the Fascist regime in Italy, and, during the 1960's, was a supporter of "the 'Palestinian' cause".

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