Sunday, June 3, 2012

"Islam to Topple Man-made Democracy"


From the Gatestone Institute that oldschooltwentysix linked in the last post on the Harold Rhode article Existential Questions Facing the Muslim World, here's another just published piece about a couple of charming little outfits called Sharia4Belgium and Sharia4Holland and the increasingly sluggish law enforcement, judicial and political responses in these little countries to a radical challenge to their democracies. I guess they know the ropes.

What is it with little European countries and radical right wing bullies in the streets?

And something even more chilling. Islamic extremists, from the same group that proved that it is now acceptable (again) in Holland to storm a public meeting and demand that the liberal speakers be executed (in this case outspoken Muslim women), are setting up a parallel legal system in Belgium.

Way to go. Don't like the government? Fine. Ignore it. Set up your own court system. There are heaps of guys with "the knowledge" who will stick up their hands to be the judges and they already have the law so they don't need a legislature. Likely they already have their police as well; in one form or another.

We owe it to liberal Muslims everywhere and to brave reformers across the Arab world, and in Iran, where they risk imprisonment, torture and murder, to stand up to this.

In September, Sharia4Belgium established Belgium's first Islamic Sharia law court in Antwerp, the second-largest city in the country. Leaders of the group say the purpose of the court is to create a parallel Islamic legal system in Belgium to challenge the state's authority as the enforcer of the civil law protections guaranteed by the Belgian constitution.

The self-appointed Muslim judges running the Islamic Sharia court apply Islamic law, rather than the secular Belgian Family Law system, to resolve disputes involving questions of marriage and divorce, child custody and child support, as well as all inheritance-related matters.

Unlike Belgian civil law, Islamic Sharia law does not guarantee equal rights for men and women; critics of the Sharia court say it will undermine the rights of Muslim women in marriage and education. Sharia4Belgium says the court in Antwerp will eventually expand its remit and handle criminal cases as well.

"Islam to Topple Man-made Democracy" Soeren Kern

Cross posted Geoffff Joint, Bar and Grill


  1. For the life of me, I do not know what to make of stories like this.

    Am I to understand that some European governments are actually allowing alternative systems of justice to operate within their own sovereignty?

    I mean, this is not exactly new, because we've been hearing these kinds of stories coming out of Europe for quite some time now, but it just boggles the mind.

  2. Caught much Mike?

    In Britain they are running separate courts

    Gib a kick.........for non-Yiddish speakers

    Have a look

    This is a French production with English sub titles

    I can't watch this. It's where I grew up. The heart of Jewish Britain. The shtetl of the East End of London. The place where people like my grandparents lived, who escaped the pogroms of the old Soviet bloc countries. It was such a warm vibrant place to grow up in, it's hell on earth now.

    I believe this in London, is now home to the most radicalised mosque in Europe.

    A follow up a couple of years later which i haven't watched

    1. Heya Shirl,

      thanks for the links. I'll definitely give 'em a look-see.

      Anyway, yeah, I caught a few nice rainbows in both Sunriver, Oregon and the Upper Sacramento River in northern California, not far from fabulous Mount Shasta.

      Beautiful country up that way, if you've never been.

      It's the Northern California high country. Lots of mountains and pine trees and rivers and deep, broad lakes.

      And trout.

      Laurie and I have decided to get up there on a regular basis. The town of Dunsmuir, population 1,500, is nestled in those hills and is like walking back in time. Looking at the main drag of that town you could think that you've stepped back into the 1920s.

      Pure Magic.

  3. So fortunate that we can fondle Betty White's crotch, while OBL or Mumia Abu-Jamal would likely pass right through airport security (because g-d forbid we should "profile!") these days. That's all I have to say, I guess...