Thursday, January 12, 2012

You Can't Say That!


{Cross-Posted at Pro-Israel Bay Bloggers}

I always find it interesting when I am told that something that I have said is not false, but simply offensive and therefore beyond the bounds of reasonable political discussion.

I have been told this a number of times about various things and have even created a list of That Which Cannot Be Spoken which is currently sitting just to your right on this blog.

Barry Rubin, one of my favorite analysts, just wrote this:

Someone had written an article in the left-wing British magazine New Statesman, which always bashes Israel sometimes in the nastiest terms, defending Israel’s 2008-2009 Gaza operation called “Cast Lead.” In the article, the writer had gone into great detail to set forth the facts of what happened and to rebut the wild allegations of war crimes and the many outright lies told about these events.

But here’s the relevant part for all of us: my colleague explained that there had been about 300 comments to that article, some positive and most negative. And, he recounted, not a single one of the negative responses cited a single fact. They did not say, for example: “Oh, you’ve gotten the numbers wrong,” or “Here’s a critical point you missed.”

No, the theme of every attack was that “only a fascist would say this” or “you cannot say such a thing.”

What these people were saying is that they don’t have to argue with you or pay attention to what you are saying. They can just close their eyes, put their hands over their ears, and scream: “Liar! Evil person! You have no right to disagree with us or else we will destroy you.”

You can see why this reminded me of the incident with Batatu. And George Orwell, too...

It is the lowest form of political discourse to merely label someone something negative in order to dismiss whatever point they may be endeavoring to make.

If, for example, I say that Palestinian national identity is the world's newest national identity and that most "Palestinians" did not consider themselves to be any such thing until the second half of the twentieth century, it is not sufficient to call me a "racist."

The truth doesn't care about whatever label you may assign to someone in order to dismiss them.

The truth is the truth and in this case it may be an inconvenient truth for pro-Palestinian activists who wish to see Israel dissolved as a Jewish state, but why should inconveniencing anti-Zionists bother me?

It doesn't.



  1. Speaking of truth, let's remember that about 70% of Egyptians CHOSE to elect Islamists and all that entails. Even serial hater Angry Arab warned us that was exactly what would happen as opposed to producing "a moderate pro-American Egypt ready to keep the peace with Israel..."

    And the lying Muslim Brotherhood who has lied all along the way is now saying it will likely hook up with the Salafis

    Everyday we see the lies of the MB exposed as they continue to pull the wool over the eyes of hapless Westerners and their governments. Of course, some have no problem whatsoever with it.

    "Former U.S. president Jimmy Carter gave the thumbs up on Tuesday to
    Egypt’s parliamentary elections, saying the people’s will was “expressed

    “We have been very pleased,” Carter told reporters during a tour of a
    polling station at the Rod al-Farag girls’ secondary school in a working
    class district of the Egyptian capital

    Asked about Islamists coming to power, Carter said: “I have no problem with that. The U.S. government has no problem with that either.”

    Obama, the new Carter. May Islamism thrive under their watchful loving eyes.

  2. Wow.

    How is this possible?

    How did we get to a place in which "liberals" actually favor a genocidal fascist movement?

    If anything proves my thesis that the progressive-left has betrayed the Jewish people it is in their encouragement of Radical Islam.

    This is just amazing.

  3. "Former
    US President Jimmy Carter said Thursday, after meeting Egypt's military
    rulers and political parties, that he expected Egypt's new government
    to focus more than the previous leadership on Palestinian rights as highlighted under the 1979 peace accords."This
    new government will probably be much more concerned about the rights of
    the Palestinians than have the previous rulers or leaders in Egypt, but
    in my opinion that will be conducive to a better prospect of peace
    between Israel and its neighbors," he said."Still shilling for Islamists after all these years.

  4. Karmafish,

    "How did we get to a place in which 'liberals' actually favor a genocidal fascist movement?"

    A key doctrine of Marxist politics, though they will deny it vehemently, calling you a racist in the process, is the obligation to support the Noble Savage in his struggle against the Sophisticated Evil Colonialist. (Consider the movie Avatar as the most graphical illustration of that doctrine.)

    The Progressivist Left has decided that the various Islamist movements are nothing but reactions of the Noble Savages in uprising against those Sophisticated Evil Colonialists, which happen to be the U.S. of A. and the Jewish State. Whatever bad behaviors the Noble Savages exhibit are ignored because "their cause is good, and besides, who are you to judge other people's cultures?" etc. (while the same people think the extremities of certain Ultra-Orthodox sects on the issue of sexual segregation are grounds for holding the entire Jewish state guilty).

    It's not about values, it's about a Manichean worldview where some groups are held to be totally good no matter their misdeeds, and others held to be totally evil regardless of their state being an oasis of liberty in this whole region.