Friday, April 19, 2013

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev

Mike L.



Boston mourns and wonders about the truth.

29 comments:

  1. I hope they don't Trayvon him and start splashing up picture from when he was five.

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  2. I only have one question, I suppose:

    Was this attack, or was this attack not, due in any way to the ideology of political Islam?

    I do not know the answer to that question and, as far as I know, neither does anyone else.

    We'll see what the coming days bring.

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    1. Juan Cole has an interesting take on it. Adding fucked up family dynamics to the mix.

      http://www.juancole.com/2013/04/fathers-sons-chechnya.html

      No idea if he's right. I saw a comment somewhere down the rabbit hole assailing Cole for trying to somehow relieve radical Islam of any responsibility. Not an unreasonable accusation. But I think it does just the opposite. I grew up with a kid from a really screwed up family. He killed his parents and one of his two siblings. Add radical Islam to the mix and we have these two trying and almost succeeding in killing hundreds or thousands. I'm not sure that's any relief.

      We may never know what the motivation was. If it ends up another Columbine/Aurora/Newtown I won't be surprised either.

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  3. Mindfulness doesn't exclude compassion.

    Being compassionate shouldn't exclude being mindful.

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    It is THE WEST -- and the Western mass media in particular -- that is most causing all of this.

    It is the West (the Western mass media, Western governments, Western academics, Western contemporary so-called "Human Rights" organizations) that is libeling and demonizing Israel.

    It is the West (the Western mass media, Western governments, Western academics, Western contemporary so-called "Human Rights" organizations) that is obfuscating the Islamic supremacist political movement.

    It is the West (the Western mass media, Western governments, Western academics, Western contemporary so-called "Human Rights" organizations) that is colluding with the members of the Islamic supremacist political movement to propagate a myth of "Muslim victimhood".

    It is the West (the Western mass media, Western governments, Western academics, Western contemporary so-called "Human Rights" organizations) that is thereby causing young Muslim people in the West to be, out of feeling an unjustified sense of grievance and victimhood, following and adhering to the authoritative teachings of Jihad in Islam which are being ubiquitously propagated by Muslim clerics and Muslim leaders throughout the world including in the mosques in the Western counties -- mosques which, in the U.S., are mosques whose number has doubled -- by the funding of Saudi Arabia -- since the Islamic violent Jihad attacks on September 11, 2001.

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    1. Clarification:

      ...young culturally Muslim people in the West...

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  4. Well, the reports are beginning to emerge about the usual Jihad type vids on his You Tube page so I'm leaning towards "yes." Good guys don't truck in such videos IMHO.

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  5. I like to take a lawyerly dispassionate approach to questions such as this and will only arrive at a conclusion after all the necessary evidence is in and has been subjected to careful objective and considered analysis.

    OF COURSE this attack was due to the ideology of political Islam!!

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  6. And if it's because daddy drank or mommy didn't give them enough lap time or Mother Government didn't empathize with their refugee pain hard enough, then so what? Like most suicide bombers in Israel in Britain in Russia and now here, they come from the ranks of the middle class, the educated, some would say the privileged. They have the luxury of spending their lives online or in the mosque being radicalized. And this is what they did with it in a warped inversion of Patty Hearst Syndrome. War as a fashion statement. A Rage Against the Cul de Sac. And the real difference between these losers and any other is that in the rest of America, losers grow up to be ordinary criminals, meth addicts and such.

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  7. It's getting harder and harder not to acknowledge that the ideology of political Islam is lurking behind this tragedy.

    I just wanted to be as fair as possible before drawing this conclusion, but ya know what?

    It won't make much difference.

    I fully expect the Ostrich Routine to continue unabated.

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  8. So, friends and family are describing fairly normal, happy guys with dreams and aspirations and normal lives and then ONE DARK DAY....da da da dum...they go crazy murderous like a SWITCH was turned on. Can we say....terror cell? I can't really think of any other plausible explanation. Notice I said plausible since there are likely lots of other possible explanations but none that,for me at least, fits the sudden Jihad thing we see here.


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    1. You could be right. I don't really know. But I think it's just as likely that we have Wally and the Beaver gone wrong. Wally adopts Jihad as his ideology and the Beav goes along for the ride. And in this Wally-Weirld, Jihad means blow the shit out of somebody or something. (I'm sure there are many that would dispute that "Jihad" means blow something up. And for some that adopt Jihad as an ideology, that very well may be true. But for others, including Wally, not so much.) So Jihad may have been the bomb (or the fuse?). Is it possible that Lumpy or Eddie were involved? Maybe, who knows. I don't know if there's anything obvious at this point to conclude either way. But Ward and June sure must be pissed.

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    2. The younger brother seems less "religious," according to stuff we are hearing but like many younger brothers, under the spell of the older brother. Still, it's quite a leap from smoking pot with your buds to "let's blow up people at the Marathon...cool."

      The family in general seems pissed and bewildered; how much of that is real we may never know.

      Admittedly, my take is just one take. Most of it I base on reports several years ago that the Jihadists were trying to recruit white looking operatives to get around racial profiling. These guys would have been just the ticket for that.

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  9. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev attended the Muslim-Brotherhood-affiliated "Boston Islamic Society".

    On the Muslim-Brotherhood-affiliated "Boston Islamic Society":

    Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick and the Imam
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUYIHRRaPmA

    More on the Muslim-Brotherhood-affiliated "Boston Islamic Society":

    http://israel-thrives.blogspot.com/2013/04/after-boston-attack-us-muslims-reliving.html?showComment=1366471110390#c7754959880904340227

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  10. We have to face the fact that the "political" aspects of Islam are an integral part of the religion. Sure, Islam has a spiritual component like other religions (in Islam—mostly copied from Judaism), but the political component is there too, just like in Judaism; and as in Judaism, it's not really possible to separate between the two. (Where Judaism and Islam differ chiefly is in the former being nationalist and the latter global-imperialist.)

    A man born Muslim, like a Jew or Christian or Hindu or Buddhist, can be lax in observance for most of life until something makes him more religious. The symptoms will be according to the religion. A secular/Reform/Conservative Jew becoming Orthodox will become unavailable during Shabbat, adopt socially conservative opinions (anti-abortion, anti open homosexuality) and, in Israel usually, turn hawkish with regard to the Arabs. A newly-minted Christian fundamentalist will start Bible thumping and often become socially conservative. A person embracing Hindutva in India will stop eating meat and start reviling the Muslims. (I'm in sympathy with those guys for the latter reason.) And so on.

    A lax Muslim strengthening in observance will start praying at the mosque, stop drinking wine and prepare for the jihad against the infidels. There'll be those who will later say, "But I don't understand it! He never betrayed a hint of doing such a thing!" They're actually right: It means that, up until recently, he was one of the many cafeteria Muslims. And then suddenly he changed.

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  12. "I hope they don't Trayvon him and start splashing up picture from when he was five."

    A forlorn hope. This mind addled young nobody and the loser toerag brother will be dissected from when they were weaned and how and where in some ghoulish search to find reason for this in their murky brains and backgrounds. There is an industry that does this and in this case it is already global.

    It's all quite sinister. It's all part of the reflex that this has to be "our" fault. It can't possibly be what it so obviously is. That wouldn't be "progressive".

    What will they find? That these men are human and pretty ordinary humans at that really. "Complex" but aren't we all? Banal even. How many times do we have to discover that ordinary people do most evil things before we accept that we know this?

    Ideology can do that. It does it all the time. We know what the enemy is. They are not hiding. We really should stop feeding them.

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    1. I was at a party this evening and the question of what to make of these young men came up.

      I sat there for twenty minutes, or more, as people discussed US imperalism and the media and economic issues and no one breathed a word about Islamist ideology.

      I finally said something like, "Can we at least admit that there is a political movement coming out of the Middle East that is poisonous and that is characterized by Islamic Supremacism?"

      I'm telling ya, people simply do not want to hear about it. It makes progressives, in particular, exceedingly uncomfortable because they honestly believe to point out the fact of political Islam is a form of "racism" and that this entire movement must be ignored.

      Most decent western American liberals cannot even conceive of political Islam as an actual political movement comprised of millions of people, and a number of states, that oppresses women, hangs gay people from cranes, and calls for the genocide of the Jews.

      It's right before their very eyes and, yet, they still cannot bring themselves to acknowledge the obvious.

      Constantly opposing willful ignorance begins to suck after awhile, I have to say.

      Screw it.

      Laurie and I are heading to Lodi tomorrow for a little fishing, lunch, and wine tasting. It's going to be a little toasty out there tomorrow, but the valley is doing some terrific things with Zinfandels.

      Cheers!

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    2. Have a good time Mike. How's your hand by the way?

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    3. "as people discussed US imperalism"

      That phrase, that concept makes me crazy. "They," use it to describe Israel too. That "useful idiots," still exist after all these years amazes me.

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    4. Geoffff, thanks for asking.

      At the moment I have maybe 85 percent motion in my right index finger with only occasional pain, depending how I am moving the hand.

      I still, lo these three weeks later, have a little swelling along the knuckle, but the infection - which was the dangerous part - is largely cleared up. But, I tell ya, I came very close to being hospitalized.

      Tomorrow I have an appointment with a hand specialist in San Francisco who will tell me whether or not I have done permanent damage to this hand.

      But even if I have, so long as I can type and fish and hammer a nail with little or no pain, then I can live with it.

      btw, we didn't even bother with the fishing this morning. We rolled into Lodi around 10:30 and decided that we needed breakfast, so we hit one of our favorite places in town called The Dancing Fox.

      After that we just decided to hit a few wineries before getting home, as we just did.

      In any case, it's a beautiful day here in our little blue cottage by the bay.

      Cheers!

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    5. Glad to hear everything works, Mike, though I'm hoping you hear better news from the doctor tomorrow!

      Interesting to hear of the experience at your party. I'd love to eavesdrop on one of those (though I probably wouldn't be able to hear much, heh).

      Let's just say we roll with different groups of people. Reminds me of School's point about the echo chambers of the highly formally educated, etc etc...

      Which is of course certainly not to dismiss the value of higher education, nor is it meant to excuse or idealize the base ignorance and bigotry of all too many of my fellow grunts from the complete opposite end of the educational spectrum with whom I associate every day of my life.

      But I can certainly imagine the heroic pretzel-twisting feats of logic certain New Yorker types (I read that magazine myself, for the record, though I no longer subscribe because I'm broke, heh) can bring themselves to in order to make the facts fit their 'reality.'

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  13. Can I call 'em or what?

    " Boston bombers: FBI hunting 12-strong terrorist “sleeper cell” linked to brothers Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev
    21 Apr 2013 00:01

    Police believe the pair were specially trained to carry out the devastating attack"

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/boston-bombers-fbi-hunting-12-strong-1844844#.UXM54Yqm6hA.twitter

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    1. Interesting. Mostly because it hasn't been picked up yet by any domestic news organizations. Except for infowars.

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  14. Oh ye of little faith.;)

    We'll see, but my money's on lots more terrorists. The domestic press may be a little gun shy considering their less than stellar performance during this event. Then again they may have been played a bit:

    http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/04/cops-may-have-played-the-media/

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  15. Again, the crucial factor of the whole situation: The Boston Islamic Society (Boston Islamic Society Cultural Center) -- the mosque / Islamic center that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev attended.

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  16. We are afraid to note there is a difference between fanaticism and piety. We in the west can be so disdainful of most organized faiths (except of course for Buddhism and Islam) that we have a blindness when it comes to making a distinction between fervor and insanity. We like to think 'we're above it all' and we go to all the Dawkins lectures and and tell each other only dull Medieval types bother with that silly man in the sky stuff. But along the way we are so disparaging of it we can't conceive of religion being used as a weapon or a jumping off point to arm people who will commit mass murder. That is truly swimming at your own peril when you underestimate your opponent so tragically and badly.

    What we need to understand is that deeply held beliefs are in fact deeply held beliefs. As important as wives and children, as self worth as identity and that unlike most in the modern west, something THEY believe are things to kill and die for. This makes westerners uncomfortable because it puts them at a disadvantage. But there it is. There's plenty of pious people who are wonderful people. And then there's the fanatics. Same core belief system, different outcome. One is not the other. One is benign the other is mass public executions in soccer stadiums. We in the west need to fully understand the differences and the similarities and stop pretending that just because they pray barefoot to a book hardly any of them can read or understand doesn't mean they can't commit atrocities in the name of that book.

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    1. Dawkins RRRRAWWWWXXXXX!!! He isn't the foremost authority, but he helps shatter the leftist consensus that Islam is great.

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  17. Friends and associates of the older brother are now wondering if he was perhaps involved in the murder of three men a while ago. One was supposedly his "best friend," and all, interestingly, were JEWS.

    http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/2013/04/22/police-probe-possible-link-between-marathon-bomber-and-unsolved-triple-homicide-waltham/n4uUaRfBgqeFPiRBrkCRsL/story.html

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    1. Perhaps that's why he didn't have any friends?

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