Mike L.
I love the space program and, in fact, spent a very hot summer some years back at the Johnson Space Center outside of Houston working on their oral history project. I wrote twenty and thirty page biographies of some of the guys formerly at Mission Control, for internal NASA publication, to be used as the basis of future interviews with these individuals.
What could possibly be more fascinating, after all, or more of a test of the human potential, or of more scientific benefit, than space exploration? Human beings are the consciousness of this planet. We are the means by which the Earth comes to know itself. It is our job as human beings to learn about where we are, what the Earth consists of, what the natural processes consist of, and what is around us. It is NASA's job, within that larger project, to explore space.
For years, however, I have been hearing that the Obama administration is primarily using NASA as a means of outreach to the Muslim world. Whenever I would read stories along these lines it would always raise an eyebrow for me. I just found it difficult to believe that even the Obama administration would undermine NASA's historic mission in favor of diplomatic outreach.
Finally this morning I decided to look into the matter and quickly came upon this bit of interview with NASA chief Charles Bolden from a 2010 interview with, of all outlets, Al Jazeera. In that interview Bolden said that Obama wanted NASA's top priorities to be to inspire students to study science and math, to expand NASA's international relationships, and "perhaps foremost... to reach out to the Muslim world... to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science... and math and engineering."
NASA's job under Barack Obama is to help the Muslim world feel good?
Is this a joke?
It's just unbelievable, but the video at the top of this page confirms it. I have been operating under the assumption that those who complained about NASA's outreach program were complaining about some relatively minor part of what NASA does but according to Bolden, who is the guy in charge, outreach is not periphery, but essential these days. Yet the Space Shuttle is decommissioned under Obama and thus the United States no longer has any way of getting into space unless we want to hitch a ride with the Russians.
This may have nothing to do with the Arab-Israel conflict, but I find it personally offensive.
Space exploration is a goal that speaks to the very highest nature of what humanity can accomplish and, yet, under this administration it is downgraded into an effort to make the Muslim world feel good about itself?
What a disgrace.
You'll have to excuse me while I go vomit.
The Day of the Dhimmi is Done - Michael Lumish, PhD, proprietor. (mike.lumish@gmail.com)
"NASA's job under Barack Obama is to help the Muslim world feel good?"
ReplyDeleteYeah, pretty much; in this and in almost everything else. He's just a feelgood kind of guy. Course he could just be playing 11th dimensional chess and the real plan is to send all violent Jihadists to the moon or maybe the sun. Could be....one never really knows.
ROFLMAO!
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Reminds me of this piece at Elder, which School also recently mentioned.
ReplyDeleteSeems to me that if one is going to do such 'outreach,' that it shouldn't be a 'top priority,' though I wouldn't necessarily object to its being something they try to focus on every now and again, in a "hey guys, come on out of the Middle Ages and join us in modernity" kinda way.
JihadTV itself runs on satellite, so at least you'd think they would have some self-interest in space programs...
The worst thing that ever happened to NASA was the end of the Cold War and now we have the Obama administration seeking to kill off NASA entirely.
DeleteIt's a terrible shame and a true betrayal of America's scientific potential.
All extremism is inherently parasitic because it can afford to be. It's entirely internally consistent for radical Islam to use every tool every technology of today in its fight to ultimately bring the world back to the Dark Ages. Why? Because to them this is a war; a war in which there are no rules. Nothing is off limits and anything is a weapon. Importantly though it's a war by a culture which already stopped the clock 3 or 4 hundred years ago. So going back from 1600 to 700 is less traumatic than going back there from today.
ReplyDeleteWe are scolded every day to 'respect' them and all the legacy of their wisdom and learning. Ok, but that was then this is now. The Ottomans were the world's preeminent metallurgists in the 1500's and Damascene Steel ('borrowed' from Sri Lanka in 300BCE) was equal to Japanese steel for a thousand years, until they just stopped around 1700. But again, they simply took a look at the Enlightenment, Modern Science, the Industrial Revolution and retreated. They gave up. They decided the risks were too high.
This is many ways is the core of the so called dispute between the Islamic world and the west. When Napoleon conquered Egypt in 1798, the Egyptians were shocked to their core; having retreated from the world and told themselves stories about how they were the greatest of the greatest peoples to ever be on Earth. And from which they've never recovered. What does the Muslim world make today? What does it invent or develop? Where are the books, the universities, the technology?
So we can make ourselves feel good that Muslim outreach is this years Fresh Air Program. But there's little foundation there and soon enough it gets discarded.
Yes, Trudy, but Allahu Akbar.
DeleteWhat confounds me is how those who are so (rightly) opposed to imposition of Christian fundamentalism, make excuses for the very same thing when it comes to Islam. It's Dr. Gerstenfeld's humanitarian racism in astoundingly clear and public view for anyone who cares to see it.
The question is why is it so controversial to acknowledge this?
I don't see NASA's bete noire of Muslim so called exclusion to have the least thing to do with Jews. I'm not sure what it is at all. In fact there's a pretty significant population of university students in the hard sciences in the US from Muslim nations today. There would almost no incentive from them to come here and learn the humanities, so what's left? And I have never heard that Muslim secondary school students are statistically under represented in the sciences. Maybe, but I've never heard it. Nor have I heard that Muslim students in the US are economically disadvantaged as a class and that if we inculcated the sciences they would, I don't know, climb out of the cycle of crushing urban poverty? So I'm left with the conclusion that Obama is using the Ani Defranco Method "Anything is a weapon if you hold it right". And that NASA really has NO mission at all, so it may as well fill this one. Obama dialed back all of the 'grand' mission plans to return to the moon, go to Mars and so on. Manned spaceflight in the US is OVER. Did you ever think you'd live to see the day? So with NASA dialing back why not toss them in the social engineering bucket?
DeleteAgreed for the most part, but it's not quite fully that, either.
DeleteFor example, I once recall a friend was stunned when I mentioned that I think burqas should be banned. Not only because I view them as essentially medieval anti-woman torture devices which lead to ill health effects, but also because they've been used by violent (male) criminals to carry out numerous bank heists and other crimes here in North Philadelphia.
The fact that every corner deli here in Kensington has signs on their doors warning "no hoodies or masks allowed, you are trespassing and the police will be called" is generally accepted as reasonable by everyone. But my thoughts on the burqa thing are often considered out of bounds, because well I guess G-d forbid we should ever possibly offend any profesional offense-takers in cases like this, where we have demonstrable evidence to support my opinion.
In this case, it's probably multiculturalism (certainly not a bad thing in and of itself, but!) at its worst, run completely amok.
Which is to say, it's pretty obvious to me that not all of the apologists for Islamic fundamentalism are driven by Jew-hatred in every case, if even though most may certainly harbor such feelings as well...
Above response to Daniel, btw...
DeleteTrudy,
DeleteHere's the layout:
-- "the Jews are persecuting 'The Palestinians'"
-- "'The Palestinians' are the Muslims"
-- "The U.S. government supports the Jews"
-- "The Jews control the foreign policy of the U.S. government; The Jews control the media"
-- "The Jews are obfuscating their persecution of the Muslims and are libeling the Muslims"
-- "The Muslims are justifiably angry about their being persecuted by the Jews, and are justifiably angry that the U.S. government is supporting the Jews' persecution of them"
-- "We need to show the Muslims that we support them, so that they won't be angry at us." / "We need to support the Muslims against the evil powerful Jews."
And the people who are most influentially propagating this libelous anti-Jewish narrative are Westerners -- Western elites.
The facts of the Western racist war on Israel are facts of the situation that are most important to tell.
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Johann von Leers and Walt/Mearsheimer, by Clemens Heni
"Most people think that the book ‘Israel Lobby’ by Stephen Walt and John J. Mearsheimer was published in 2007 – at the same time in the US and in Germany, by the way. Well, the first edition of that book was rather published in 1940 – by leading National Socialist anti-Semitic publicist Prof. Dr. Johann von Leers. Von Leers published ‘Kräfte hinter Roosevelt’ (‘Forces behind Roosevelt’) in Berlin in 1940. ..."
http://clemensheni.wordpress.com/2011/01/21/johann-von-leers-and-waltmearsheimer/
Yale Kills YIISA, by Clemens Heni
"...'Yale University last week killed the Yale Initiative for the Interdisciplinary Study of Antisemitism — the only program of its kind in the country, an academically stellar one-stop anti-Semitism research shop. Worse, it almost certainly did so because YIISA refused to ignore the most virulent, genocidal and common form of Jew-hatred today: Muslim anti-Semitism.'
"If one is analyzing the most dangerous form of contemporary antisemitism, you are censored, defamed, bullied, and finally thrown out from campus: highlighting Muslim and Arab antisemitism is taboo.
"In that sense, American academe is like its counterpart in Europe.
"Analyzing liberal and left hypocrisy, YIISA Associate Professor Neil Kressel, already showed in 1992 that progressives aim at antisemites as long as they are right-wing or Nazis. Antisemitism from the Third World or from minority groups, including the left, have never been a topic for mainstream scholars and journalists in the US. Contrary to fantasies about a powerful 'Israel-Lobby' in the US, antisemitism is very strong among the elites in America. The recent Yale decision is proof for this. ..."
http://clemensheni.wordpress.com/2011/06/08/yale-kills-yiisa/
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Big Oil Underwrites Anti-Israel Conference, by Cliff Kincaid
Deletehttp://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/detail/big-oil-underwrites-anti-israel-conference
The Arab Lobby, by Lee Smith
"...Mitchell Bard's [book] describes how this Arab lobby — from U.S. foreign service officers, oil companies, Christian anti-Zionists, and Ivy League universities to Gulf Arab states, Arab-American activists and Islamist ideologues — exercises its influence in U.S. politics. ..."
"...AIPAC is a grassroots organization funded by U.S. citizens that represents the broad sentiment of Christians and Jews who are interested in one issue—protecting and promoting the [supposed] U.S.-Israel relationship. The Arab lobby, by comparison, has little organic U.S. backing and divides its efforts between two causes — oil and Palestine. ..."
"...The real power [of the Arab lobby] is in the hands of the Arab lobby's oil sector, the role of which is to keep the Arab oil producers happy by ensuring that Americans stay addicted to oil, that the defense industry keeps its production lines open, and that the image of Arab states stays polished..."
http://www.tabletmag.com/news-and-politics/44096/the-arab-lobby/
The Secret War Against the Jews, by John Loftus and Mark Aarons
"The authors demonstrate that numerous Western countries, especially the United States and Great Britain, have conducted repeated and willful spying missions on Palestine* and later Israel over many decades. While on the surface these two countries and others profess to be ardent allies of Israel, they work, in fact, through their intelligence services to betray Israel's secrets to the Arabs. Their motive: oil and multinational profits, which must be attained at any price through international covert policies. To understand the duplicitous nature of the West's diplomatic relations with Israel, the authors contend that one must understand the history that begins after the end of World War I with the sordid Mideast exploits of a British diplomat, Jack Philby. They then proceed into a detailed discussion of the boardrooms of American and English bankers and lawyers who had strong connections with Nazi leaders and Arab oil tycoons in the 1930s prior to the outbreak of World War II. Particularly intriguing is the information that the writers present to suggest an all-too-cozy financial relationship that existed between the Allied intelligence community and German banks even during the war. ... "
http://books.google.com/books/about/The_secret_war_against_the_Jews.html?id=trU7nY-T-4EC
The Rape of Palestine, by William B. Ziff, 1938
http://www.amazon.com/Rape-Palestine-William-B-Ziff/dp/1578988802
"Reprint of 1938 edition. The Rape of Palestine is a scathing indictment of the British administration in Palestine*. It is well documented and makes full use of quotations from the writings of non-Jewish persons who served under that administration and themselves complained of the anti-Semitism shown by government officials. Among them was Douglas V. Duff, who complained that 'it did not pay for one's seniors to think that one had any undue sympathy for the returning Jews'. Even if only one-half of the evidence amassed by the author were true, he would have proved that nearly all the persons sent out to administer Palestine were anti-Semitic and determined to evade the Mandate and destroy the Jewish national home."
Note: * "Palestine": The British Mandate of Palestine
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Anti-Semitism 2.0, by Mudar Zahran
Delete"The concept of the 'evil Jew' has made a well-disguised comeback: Criticizing Israel and Zionists is now deemed a legitimate option to cursing Jews and Judaism. Not only is it open, socially acceptable and legal, but it can actually bring prosperity and popularity. This new form of anti-Semitism 2.0 is well-covered-up, harder to trace and poses a much deeper danger to the modern way of life of the civilized world than the earlier crude form of it, as it slowly and gradually works on delegitimizing Jews to the point where it eventually becomes acceptable to target Jews, first verbally, then physically -- all done in a cosmopolitan style where the anti-Semites are well-groomed speakers and headline writers in jackets and ties; and not just Arab, but American and European, from ‘sanitized’ news coverage of the most bloodthirsty radicals, to charges against Israel in which facts are distorted, selectively omitted or simply untrue, as in former President Jimmy Carter's book on Israel.
"Why would a Palestinian* be writing this? The answer is simple: The Palestinians have been used as fuel for the new form of anti-Semitism; this has hurt the Palestinians and exposed them to unprecedented and purposely media-ignored abuse by Arab governments, including some of those who claim love for the Palestinians, yet in fact only bear hatred to Jews. This has resulted in Palestinian cries for justice, equality, freedom and even basic human rights being ignored while the world getting consumed with delegitimizing Israel from either ignorance or malice.
"Worse, just as the old form of anti-Semitism has proven itself a threat as poisonous to its supporters, as it was to the Jews, the new form of anti-Semitism 2.0 could prove itself the same -- all the more likely as we see the world tolerating Iran's nuclear ambitions not necessarily out of love for the Mullah's regime, but instead because of mental fixation against Israel.
"Such bias against Israel cannot be 'accidental' or merely 'unfortunate.' No other nation has received the amount of scrutinizing, criticism, coverage, demonization and delegitimization. In fact the question to be asked is not whether there is bias against Israel; but rather why there is bias against Israel ..."
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/1979/anti-semitism-20
Note: "Palestinian": 'Palestinian' Arab
Jay,
DeleteI agree, in general, to a degree, with what you wrote. But it all stems from what I described above. And, like you wrote: in almost all cases among the members of the general population of the U.S. the anti-Jewish bigotry that is involved is not conscious and is not at the forefront of the resultant and involved other factors of the wrong view, and wrong views, held about the situation. But it all stems from what I described above.
And,
"Multiculturalism" is a policy of collusion with Islam (a policy developed by Europeans -- to try to show how "good" they are -- out of their feeling humiliation at having been shown to have committed the Holocaust, and out of, as part of that, their feeling malice and resentment toward the Jewish people and trying to prove how "good" they are -- and, involved with that, trying to show how "evil" Jewish people (Israel) are.)
"Multiculturalism" is, in essence, a (European-developed) policy of anti-Jewish bigotry -- which results in oppression of, and persecution of, everyone other than Muslims.
Actual multiculturalism has existed in the U.S. for the past forty years -- and has existed in the U.S., to a large degree, for the past over one hundred years. It has so existed naturally -- as a result of what has been the secular open free society of the United States of America -- which has resulted from the nature of the secular democratic system of government of the United States of America as defined by the U.S. Constitution.
Yet I think that many members of the current young generation in the U.S. view the U.S. as being an oppressive racist fascist country. This view that I think that many members of the current young generation in the U.S. holds is a perverse wrong view. This view has been cultivated as a result of the Soviet "intellectual exchange" propaganda campaign toward U.S. "intellectuals" and academics and journalists throughout several decades, and as a result of propaganda efforts such as those engaged in by the Marxist Frankfurt School ("Critical Theory", "Political Correctness", etc.).
If one compares the U.S. to all other countries in the world, U.S. society is the most free society in the world. And U.S. society is among the least racist societies in the world. Americans take for granted the freeness of American society. And Americans take for granted the secular democratic system of government of the United States of America which has allowed and cultivated and been the cause of the freeness of American society. And the secular democratic system of government of the United States of America is now being eroded -- intentionally, by front-groups of, and individual members of, the Muslim Brotherhood and the regime in Iran, and, wittingly and unwittingly by their American "Marxist", "Progressive", and "Liberal", and Republican, allies and colluders.
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Delete"Actual multiculturalism has existed in the U.S. for over one hundred years. It has so existed naturally -- as a result of what has been the secular open free society of the United States of America -- which has resulted from the nature of the secular democratic system of government of the United States of America as defined by the U.S. Constitution."
Very well said, Daniel. Fully agreed, with a couple of exceptions. African-Americans certainly weren't considered equal citizens 100 years ago, and Hispanic-Americans are still struggling against discrimination today, but yeah.
It's as Mike noted a few days ago, and also what I think you're getting at here too.
For all the crap we catch (sometimes, unfortunately, well deserved) here in the US, and for all of our faults, we're still a strikingly well-working melting pot society.
And we do keep trying.
If one is looking for intolerant societies, then one needs to look far away from the US. And in fact, one needs only look at Israel's neighbors for very real, extreme instances of racism, apartheid and intolerance, etc etc....
Jay,
DeleteYou wrote:
"Fully agreed, with a couple of exceptions. African-Americans certainly weren't considered equal citizens 100 years ago"
Yeah, I realized that, and that's why I changed what I wrote to:
"Actual multiculturalism has existed in the U.S. for the past forty years -- and has existed in the U.S., to a large degree, for the past over one hundred years. It has so existed naturally -- as a result of what has been the secular open free society of the United States of America -- which has resulted from the nature of the secular democratic system of government of the United States of America as defined by the U.S. Constitution."
And you wrote:
"and Hispanic-Americans are still struggling against discrimination today"
Unjust discrimination occurs everywhere -- in every country. Against many groups of people. And it occurs less in the U.S. than in almost every other country in the world. And, in the U.S., it is not governmentally instituted. But it is starting to be governmentally instituted in the U.S. -- with the instituting of Shariah compliance in the U.S. governmental legal system (and in, as part of that, the U.S. economic system, and in American cultural institutions).
Jay,
DeleteAnd you wrote:
"For all the crap we catch (sometimes, unfortunately, well deserved) here in the US, and for all of our faults, we're still a strikingly well-working melting pot society.
"And we do keep trying.
"If one is looking for intolerant societies, then one needs to look far away from the US. And in fact, one needs only look at Israel's neighbors for very real, extreme instances of racism, apartheid and intolerance, etc etc...."
Exactly.
"And, in the U.S., it is not governmentally instituted."
DeleteNot for lack of trying in places like Arizona, though. See the link I provided elsewhere earlier as regards minority Republicans, and their thoughts on the matter.
This is actually an issue I'd love to see real debate on, and for all the 'tolerance' certain 'progressive' sites like to claim they stand for, I'm pretty sure that at least in my experience, they stand for no such thing when it comes to Black Republicans like Spence Jr., Harris and Sgt. Mansfield.
Even if these folks would also generally agree with them re: Republican intolerance of minorities.
Hate goes all ways, and 'progressives' have no shortage of same.
"But it is starting to be governmentally instituted in the U.S. -- with the instituting of Shariah compliance in the U.S. governmental legal system (and in, as part of that, the U.S. economic system, and in American cultural institutions)."
Once again, I'm gonna need proof for this claim, Daniel.
If it's happening, we certainly need to know it. But I just don't see it?
Jay,
DeleteI listed links to information about this previously in a series of comments on a previous post.
Here are some more links (and some of those previous links again) to information about this:
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Al-Jazeera reporter asks about Shariah-Finance, 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh-RmkD1g84
At a briefing opposing the US Treasury's 2008 pro-Sharia-finance "Islamic Finance 101" presentation in Washington D.C., Frank Gaffney, Robert Spencer, and Warren Manison respond to an Al-Jazeera reporter.
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Frank Gaffney: Jihad with Money
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66GBDmmy12M
A briefing by Frank Gaffney.
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SHARIAH FINANCE - USA LAWSUITS AND AIG, 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErG8xfYtJmQ
A briefing by Joy Brighton.
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Frank Gaffney: Jihad By Other Means, 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wLEvYcmj_Q
A briefing by Frank Gaffney.
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The Islamic Infiltration, Part 1: Inside Our Government, Armed With Our Secrets (an interview with a U.S. Dept. of Defense analyst and counter-terrorism official requesting anonymity)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFOnv3xiKPU
The Islamic Infiltration, Part 2: From Influence to Insurrection (an interview with a former FBI special agent requesting anonymity)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQLIa-p7xNs
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Benghazi: US Foreign Policy and the Influence of Shariah Doctrine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sRkbkIuJHw
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The Obama administration is complying with, and cooperating with, OIC directives in the United Nations to implement "blasphemy" "laws" to prevent the telling of facts about the actions of the proponents of the Islamic supremacist political movement (the government of Saudi Arabia, the Muslim Brotherhood, the OIC, etc.), and to prevent the telling of facts about the tenets of Islam.
David Horowitz TV Free Speech vs. Anti Blasphemy The Frontline Battle 2012 - Deborah Weiss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_Zp4ulrO9c
A brief by Deborah Weiss.
Mightier Pen 2012: The Growing Censorship of Free Speech, 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPtKaUQLZ4g
Speakers:
Sam Nunberg (Middle East Forum-The Legal Project)
Brooke Goldstein (The Lawfare Project, author of "Lawfare: The War Against Free Speech")
Andrew McCarthy (U.S. former federal prosecutor)
Libel Lawfare： Silencing Criticism of Radical Islam, 2009
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRvgpHOqzJo
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSUwW35FsCs
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay69CmQTeq4
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k4I-Txr_Lo
Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogjXDTo-VXo
Conference speakers: Alan Dershowitz, Frank Gaffney, James Taranto, Andy McCarthy, John J. Walsh, Hassan Dai, Joe Kaufman, Marc Lebuis, David Rivkin, Alan Mendoza, Douglas Murray, David Harris, Elizabeth Samson, Barak Seener
(And also included is the presentation of award to Timothy Kepshandy of Sidley Austin (a law firm which has given free legal representation to some people, including Hassan Dai and Marc Lebuis, who have targeted by Islamic-supremacist "lawfare".)
David Horowitz TV Free Speech vs. Anti Blasphemy The Frontline Battle 2012 - Brooke Goldstein
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0Mkmbktw3Y
A brief by Brooke Goldstein.
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Sorry Dan, I can't hear YouTubes which don't have captions.
DeleteMeningitis did a number on me eons ago, back when I was 19.
But I also don't believe any videos which claim Sharia is taking hold here in the US. That's just not true, and if anyone would see this it would surely be someone who lives in North Philadelphia, right?
There is no such thing happening here now, nor is there even a threat of same...
Can you provide evidence that such a thing is happening here?
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Look, you and I are both on the same side when it comes to the threat posed against our society; but it's failed, and we should both be glad of that.
IMO, there are much bigger battles to choose rhan this...
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DeleteOn an action by an American Judge in Pennsylvania (who is a convert to Islam)
Muslim Admits to Attacking Atheist; Muslim Judge Dismisses Case
Judge Mark Martin:
"Having had the benefit of having spent over 2 and a half years in predominantly Muslim countries I think I know a little bit about the faith of Islam. In fact I have a copy of the Koran here and I challenge you sir to show me where it says in the Koran that Mohammad arose and walked among the dead. I think you misinterpreted things. Before you start mocking someone else’s religion you may want to find out a little bit more about it it makes you look like a dufus and Mr. (Defendant) is correct. In many Arabic speaking countries something like this is definitely against the law there. In their society in fact it can be punishable by death and it frequently is in their society. ..."
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/crime/muslim-admits-attacking-atheist-muslim-judge-dismisses-case
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On cultural infiltration:
Two videos which refute the National Geographic Museum Islamic propaganda film and exhibit "1001 Inventions and the Library of Secrets":
1001 LIES: Muslim Propaganda (aimed at Children)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqRqjzLCcqI
video by ex-Muslim -- YouTube user "Klingschor"
Science and Islam: A Reply to "1001 Inventions and the Library of Secrets"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCtjXpLyvxA
Video by counter-Jihadist (and Evangelical Christian) David Wood
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Elementary Schools in the U.S. are, at the behest of Saudi Arabia and Muslim Brotherhood organizations, implementing pro-Islamic propaganda "Islamic studies" courses with textbooks funded by Saudi Arabia
Brigitte Gabriel talks about this:
Brigitte Gabriel Denver presentation part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baTiZk9_t7c
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Jay, these things are just a couple of flakes of snow on the tip of the iceberg.
"Sorry Dan, I can't hear YouTubes which don't have captions."
DeleteThat makes it difficult for me to communicate to you what I know of the situation.
"Meningitis did a number on me eons ago, back when I was 19."
I'm sorry about that.
"But I also don't believe any videos which claim Sharia is taking hold here in the US."
Well, whether or not one believes that something that exists exists does not make that thing exist or not exist.
"That's just not true
Yes, it is true.
"and if anyone would see this it would surely be someone who lives in North Philadelphia, right?"
No.
"There is no such thing happening here now, nor is there even a threat of same..."
That is incorrect.
"Can you provide evidence that such a thing is happening here?"
I have done so in listing the links that I've listed which are links to information which provide evidence that this is happening.
"If it's happening, we certainly need to know it."
Exactly right.
"But I just don't see it?"
Yes. You and most other people. That's the whole problem. It's not being reported on by the mass media. Rather, those who are trying to make it known are being slandered and libeled by the mass media. And, as the information that I've provided document, it's being done consciously covertly.
The U.S. government, and the U.S. mass media, was infiltrated by the USSR in the 1930's. And, in the 1930's, most people didn't know about that. And most people in the 1930's didn't believe that what was the case about the Nazis was the case about the Nazis. That didn't make what was the case about the Nazis not the case about the Nazis. And, by the way, most of the first people in the U.S. who knew what was the case about the Nazis were "Conservatives".
“But I am a Zionist!”, by Clemens Heni
"For a liberal, voting for McCain is not without contradictions – but it is necessary. On Germany, anti-Semitism, Israel, Iran and the new American Presidency"
"The art of the intellectual is to have his/her finger on the pulse of the times, in terms of both politics and social theory. Peter Viereck (1916-2006), almost forgotten today even in the USA, was such a splendid artist. In 1940, in light of Nazi Germany and World War II, he wrote in a brilliant article: 'But I am a conservative', which became a beacon for conservatives in America, so to speak. In doing so, he decidedly turned against his own father, Sylvester Viereck, an enthusiastic Nazi who was the first foreign journalist to interview Hitler in the early 1920s. Even more, it was a wake-up call in America, against the 'liberals' and 'leftists' who praised the Hitler-Stalin Pact as well as the USSR as a bulwark against war. ..."
http://clemensheni.wordpress.com/2008/11/13/but-i-am-a-zionist/
Daniel, you're going to have to provide evidence that Sharia law is actually taking hold in the US.
DeleteFor the record, I take absolutely no offense whatsoever at your 'fisking' of my comments, but you really do need to provide more evidence than you've ever done so far.
No, Sharia is not taking hold in the US. I'm not ''blinded' by the mainstream media, I just insist on actual evidence.
Of which there is none.
Please provide solid, concrete evidence of Sharia taking hold in just one US municipality, Daniel. I promise I'll look into it, and it I'm wrong I'll fully admit it.
We don't need to go there, where there is no problem yet, is my point...
Correction: I now realize that the YouTube user Klingschor may not be ex-Muslim. I don't know whether or the YouTube user Klingschor is ex-Muslim.
DeleteAnd by the way, the YouTube user Klingschor has expressed typical Western "Liberal" wrong views about Western so-called "Conservatives" who are expressing facts about Islam and about the current Islamic supremacist political movement (and who support Israel). He has referred to such people as "Zionist anti-Muslim bigots".
I, previously, sent him some private messages in which I wrote a lot of information about the situation. He replied to me and said that he wasn't going to read it, but that if I wanted to share some information with him I could talk to him on Skype. It's very difficult for me to that, but, eventually, a long while after that, I managed to call him up on Skype, but he wasn't ready to talk at that time. I haven't tried to call him up on Skype again. It's been too difficult for me.
Your experience with Skype strikes me as rather familiar, what with my own problems re: using YouTube and all...
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Jay,
DeleteI don't know what to do to communicate to you what I know about the situation.
I've provided, in comments on this post, links to videos which (and a link to comments on another post with links to videos which) provide actual evidence.
You expressed that you can't listen to those videos because your hearing is impaired, and I understand that and I appreciate that.
But, I don't have the wherewithal to do any more right now.
Maybe I'll be able to do so later.
"Your experience with Skype strikes me as rather familiar, what with my own problems re: using YouTube and all..."
DeleteYeah. :)
And, with me, my own problems using things are problems that I have in doing almost everything -- not just with using Skype and not just with using YouTube. It's painful and difficult for me to write comments on the internet.
But, in any case,
Best wishes
What if I don't believe those videos, though, Daniel?
DeleteI'm going to need solid proof that Sharia is taking hold in the US, and a few folks on YouTube claiming that it is, despite all evidence to the contrary, doesn't quite do it for me.
Give me proof of honor killings in America. Give me evidence of stonings in America, which are condoned by prosecutorial bodies.
Prove to me that I can't wander Germantown Avenue (even as I regularly do) without being threatened with death.
We can acknowledge the threat of Jihad without exaggerating...
"What if I don't believe those videos, though, Daniel?"
DeleteWhat if someone who was directed to videos exposing the Mohammed Al-Durah affair hoax said: "What if I don't believe those videos, though?"
"a few folks on YouTube claiming"
It's not "a few folks on YouTube". It's former members of the U.S. government (executive administrations, FBI, CIA, military), lawyers, Middle Eastern non-Muslims, ex-Muslims, truly "moderate" (non-orthodox: non-Shariah-adherent, non-Shariah-proponent) Muslims (Zuhdi Jasser, Tarek Fatah) -- well-educated well-informed intelligent people.
And they're not merely "claiming". They're documenting. And recounting. And explaining.
"Give me proof of honor killings in America."
Well, whether or not there are honor killings by Muslims in the U.S. doesn't, in itself, really have to do with the implementation of Shariah law in the U.S., but:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/01/said-girl-i-am.html
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/05/former-prosecutor-on-the-honor-killing-of-fatima-abdallah-this-woman-was-beaten-with-a-vengeance-aut.html
And, by the way:
David Wood (a counter-Jihad activist, and Evangelical Christian) gives an account of his being illegally arrested and held in Dearborn, Michigan
David Wood of Acts 17 Apologetics at the Jessica Mokdad Human Rights Conference
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2012/05/video-david-wood-of-act-17-apologetics-at-the-jessica-mokdad-human-rights-conference-.html
Jay, I realize that you may not be able to listen to this, but I'm listing it anyway. Maybe it will be informative to others.
This account by David Wood of what happened to him is alarming. And, by the way, additionally, this account by David Wood includes his account of a police officer saying that he witnessed the covering up of Muslim honor killings by government authorities in Dearborn, Michigan.
Here is a video with video footage of some of the events that David Wood described in this account:
Arab Festival 2010: False Accusations and Shoddy Police Work
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo51z7DORQg
And, by the way, David Wood, and Nabeel Qureshi, David Wood's fellow member of his organization "Acts 17 Apologetics", are not associated with, and behave quite differently than, the Christian group that had an altercation with Muslim participants at an "Arab" gathering in Dearborn Michigan which was an altercation that Mike listed on Israel-Thrives. David Wood and Nabeel Qureshi behave in a civilized manner, and, of course, behave lawfully. And David Wood and Nabeel Qureshi have video-recorded their interactions at, and their having been illegally removed from, the "Arab Festival" in Dearborn by Muslim Arab "security officers" and colluding police officers multiple times.
Here are some of those video-recordings:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Acts17Apologetics/videos?query=dearborn
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Delete"Give me evidence of stonings in America, which are condoned by prosecutorial bodies."
I didn't say that there have been stonings in America which have been condoned by prosecutorial bodies. There have not been been stonings in America which have been condoned by prosecutorial bodies.
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"Prove to me that I can't wander Germantown Avenue (even as I regularly do) without being threatened with death."
I didn't say that you can't wander Germantown Avenue without being threatened with death.
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"We can acknowledge the threat of Jihad without exaggerating..."
Yes, of course. And I'm not exaggerating.
Jay,
DeleteAnd I apologize for my not posting immediately after your kind comment my reciprocal comment, and, instead, posting another comment by me in response to a previous comment by you.
It's hard for me to do this writing and posting of comments on the internet.
Thank you for your kind comment.
Best wishes,
Dan
No worries, Dan!
DeleteJust another "mistake."
ReplyDeleteFellow Philadelphian Daniel Pipes weighs in here on my above point, btw.
ReplyDeleteHere's another article (from the admittedly anti-urban "Philly" Magazine, but they got things right in that piece for once) backing that up, and covering the murder of Philadelphia police officer Sgt. Stephen Libczinski, specifically, who was murdered in Port Richmond in 2008 after pulling over suspects in just such a burqa bank robbery.
You would have to be be seriously understocked in the self respect department if you need to be pumped up about "your" contributions centuries before you were born so as to feel good about yourself especially if it is done by condescending foreigners. This is how trendy smug teachers treated nine year olds back in the early sixties. How many layers of disconnect are there here? Perhaps all that fantasy baiting and transfer explains why so many of those nine year olds ended up in the drug culture a few years later. Perhaps it explains it now.
ReplyDeleteObama treats Arabs like children. He treats all adults like children but especially Arabs. All leftists do. Having done that can there any surprise when they behave like children? Is Obama the only person in the US who was not prescribed "Lord of the Flies" as a young teenager?
Maybe it wasn't in the curriculum where he went to school.
Maybe yes maybe no. An awful lot of what goes for politics is window dressing. Color me cynical.
DeleteRe: Sharia law in the US. FWIW.....I have no thoughts one way or the other at this point but here are some examples for you guys to look at. FYI
ReplyDeletehttp://shariahinamericancourts.com/
Interesting to some extent but I'm not reading a 635 page document.
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