Wednesday, March 7, 2012

No Gay Rights Allowed

Doodad

African and Arab states walked out in protest Wednesday during a U.N. Human Rights Council debate on gay rights, saying that they could not legitimize homosexuality.

The 47-member state council was holding a session on sexual orientation-based discrimination for the first time after a historic resolution seeking equal rights for everyone was passed in June 2011, to the consternation of Muslim states.

On Wednesday, the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, the Arab group and the African group made their opposition clear, by walking out during the meeting.

“Licentious behavior promoted under the concept of ‘sexual orientation’ is against the fundamental teachings of various religions including Islam,” Pakistan’s envoy said.

“From this perspective, legitimizing homosexuality and other personal sexual behaviors in the name of sexual orientation is unacceptable to the OIC,” he added.

The act speaks for itself. The question is whether we will see any outcry of significance from the Left, Progressives or even Western gays themselves.

15 comments:

  1. I wrote about this here:

    http://oldschooltwentysix.blogspot.com/2012/02/56-islamic-states-to-un-human-rights.html

    They even suggested they would walk out. They are, after all, against universal human rights, but only human rights that are subject to the Islamic Shari'ah.

    http://www.oic-oci.org/english/article/human.htm

    Progressives should be all over this, but too many are busy making fun of Republicans.

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  2. Nobody, but nobody, from what I can tell, is actually discussing the tension between multiculturalism and universal human rights.

    Someone here (perhaps School?) mentioned the French scholar, Bernard-Henri Lévy.

    From what I can tell this is the 800 pound gorilla eating Twinkies in the living room.

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    1. I talk about it. fizziks wrote a diary about it back on January 7th, but it was basically ignored. Like we see all the time, Romney not condemning Mormon baptismal practices is more worthy of attention.

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    2. Yeah they should get back to us when Romney et al are hanging gays from cranes in US streets. Not to say the baptism stuff isn't bad but a little perspective please.

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    3. What is causing this blindness, do you suppose?

      Both you guys are right. A truly vicious form of Islam is arising throughout the Middle East, throughout the "Arab Spring," to the extent that the fascistic Muslim Brotherhood is taking control in Egypt, yet American Jews still fret over Evangelical Christians.

      Dan says that they need to be hit with historical truth, and I think that that is correct... but not sufficient.

      Maybe a 2 X 4 to the noggin?

      I don't know.

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    4. "Dan says that they need to be hit with historical truth, and I think that that is correct... but not sufficient."

      Communicating the factual history is not merely sufficient, but is exactly what needs to be done. It's the remedy. The root problem of the situation is the belief in lies that fabricate and constitute a perverse fictional story that "The (Evil Powerful) Jews stole the land of a people called 'The Palestinians'" and that "The (Evil Powerful) Jews persecuted, and are persecuting, that people called 'The Palestinians'". As part of the root problem of the situation, Jewish people don't understand that telling the factual history of the situation is the remedy.

      Communicating the fact that the so-called 'Palestinian movement' was founded by a co-architect of the Nazi 'Final Solution', and that the British Mandate of Palestine included what is now Jordan, and that the Jewish people who built Israel didn't steal land from anyone, and that the people who are now called 'The Palestinians' are merely the still living members of, and the descendants of, Arab people who were refugees from a 'Jihad' Muslim Arab intendedly genocidal attack on Israel by five Arab states, and who, in many cases, had moved to pre-Israel only several years before that 'Jihad' Muslim Arab intendedly genocidal attack on Israel by five Arab states, and that that 'Jihad' Muslim Arab attack on Israel by five Arab states caused more Jewish refugees from Muslim states in the Middle East than it caused Arab refugees from Israel, will show people the truth and will, thereby, solve the problem. It is the only thing that will solve the problem.

      Jewish people need to start to be mindful, and need to stop underestimating, and need to become aware of, and understand, the import of the holding of beliefs, and need to stop underestimating, and need to become aware of, and understand, the import of the holding of belief in lies that constitute a fictional story that vilifies Israel, and need to stop underestimating, and need to become aware of, and understand, other people's ability to understand what is communicated to them, and need to stop underestimating, and need to become aware of, and understand, the ability to make known what is, in fact, the case, and need to stop underestimating, and need to become aware of, and understand, the ability to, therein, protect oneself and others.

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    5. Sometimes, when one is helpless to do anything, it is better to be blind and avoid the feeling of helplessness.

      The place where something can be done, however, is among those in the USA and Europe where the enablers have such sway.

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    6. Yup.

      That's the Stockholm Syndrome argument, or what Ken Levin called the Oslo Syndrome.

      http://www.amazon.com/Oslo-Syndrome-Delusions-People-Under/dp/1575254174

      I suspect that this dovetails nicely with Jewish ethics, i.e., the tradition of Jewish hyper-self-criticism.

      And the fucked up thing is that tomorrow I will be sitting in the stands, eating a hot dog and drinking a beer, watching the Giants, and still thinking about this stuff.

      G-d Help Me!

      :O)

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  3. The "Occupy Wall Street" movement in San Francisco

    Occupy Protests against Israel and Shimon Peres in SF
    http://pjmedia.com/zombie/2012/03/08/occupy-protests-against-israel-and-shimon-peres-in-sf/?singlepage=true

    (Occupy Protests against Israel and Shimon Peres in SF. Why? Because history repeats itself when people let it. And boy, have Jewish people let it. Over, and over, and over, and over again. I hope that, this time, at this time, while it's still before it's too late, Jewish people will verbally defend their own people like normal human beings, and thereby protect themselves and their fellow Jewish people from harm (and also, thereby, also, protect the whole world from harm) by telling the factual history of the situation that Israel is in, and by, thereby, dispelling perverse obscene imbecilic lies that constitute a perverse obscene imbecilic fictional story that vilifies the nation of the Jewish people.)

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  4. ...and, an "ironic" thing is that Shimon Peres himself is completely overcome by the detrimental unwholesome state of mind that is described in the following article, and is one of the dupes who would be those anti-Jewish racists' ally, and who is one of the many Jewish people whose delusions have led to this. (And, by the way, I, myself, was one of those deluded Jewish people at one time.)

    (BTW: "Peres to AIPAC: ‘We Have a Friend in the White House’" http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/03/04/peres-to-aipac-we-have-a-friend-in-the-white-house/ )

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    The Psychology of Populations under Chronic Siege, by Kenneth Levin
    http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-046-levin.htm

    "The phenomenon of Diaspora Jews embracing as truth the indictments of Jew-haters has been so commonplace that a literature on the subject emerged under the rubric 'Jewish self-hatred.' A similar predilection evolved in Israel, particularly among the nation's cultural elites, in the context of the Arab siege.

    "Segments of populations under chronic siege commonly embrace the indictments of the besiegers, however bigoted and outrageous. They hope that by doing so and reforming accordingly they can assuage the hostility of their tormenters and win relief. This has been an element of the Jewish response to anti-Semitism throughout the history of the Diaspora.

    "The paradigm on the level of individual psychology is the psychodynamics of abused children, who almost invariably blame themselves for their predicament, ascribe it to their being 'bad,' and nurture fantasies that by becoming 'good' they can mollify their abusers and end their torment.

    "The rhetoric of the Israeli Peace Movement, its distortions of Arab aims and actions, and its indictments of Israel likewise reflected the psychological impact of chronic besiegement. The Oslo process that the Peace Movement spawned entailed policies grounded in wishful thinking and self-delusion analogous to that of abused children."

    ...

    "Perhaps the single example of Oslo rationalizations most resonant of the psychodynamics of the abused child is a statement by Oslo's chief architect, Yossi Beilin, in 1997. Defending his Oslo endeavors, Beilin declared, 'I want to live in a world where the solution to an existential problem is possible.... I am simply not prepared to live in a world where [problems] are unsolvable.'"

    "Confronted with the reality that Israel faces problems it cannot resolve by its own actions, Beilin wished not to believe that reality and simply closed his eyes to it. He embraced the delusion that, despite all the evidence to the contrary, the other side desires what he desires and the world can be rendered what he wants it to be if only Israel is sufficiently forthcoming. In the same way the abused child, faced with a painful and insoluble existential problem, chooses to believe that he truly can solve it, that his behaving better will make his world right.

    "Haaretz's Ari Shavit wrote in 2001 of the consequences of Beilin's 'solution to an existential problem.' Shavit pointed out that the nation was enduring "a profound existential crisis" brought about by a decision "produced and directed by...Yossi Beilin...who had Israel sign an illusory document [the Oslo accords] which undermines the foundations of its existence.'"

    ...

    "Throughout the history of the Diaspora, Jewish communities likewise suffered difficult situations becoming even worse, losses being piled on losses, because of the psychological corrosiveness of their predicament and the allure of delusional comprehensions that misread dangers, set Jew against Jew, and grievously compromised communal defenses.

    "As noted, in some cases the abused child is spared all the devastating consequences of his self-blame by an adult who conveys to him a different message."

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    1. Clarification:

      "...and, an 'ironic' thing is that Shimon Peres himself is completely overcome by the detrimental unwholesome state of mind that is described in the following article by Kenneth Levin."

      And:

      What I meant by:

      "...and [Shimon Peres] is one of the dupes who would be those anti-Jewish racists' ally..."

      ...is that he pursued, and is pursuing, policies that are in accordance with what those ignorant people who are currently anti-Jewish racists barely, vaguely, "think" that they are advocating and that, moreover, they are pretending, to themselves, and to others, to be advocating. Those people who are currently anti-Jewish racists are not really thinking. They're doing unwholesome actions in reaction to unwholesome emotions that they are feeling because of ignorance that they are in and because of belief that they are holding in perverse huge malicious lies that vilify the nation of the Jewish people.

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  5. Tell. The. Factual. History. Of. The. Situation. That. Israel. Is. In.

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  6. Well, if you have your way, and one of these idiotic and would-be theocrat Republicans is elected, then the U.S. would be joining the walkout as well.

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    1. Nobody here is hoping to "have our way," and have that way be a theocrat Republican elected, Reuven. You misrepresent what we say.

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    2. Always misrepresenting. In a court the trier of fact would have your head on a platter.

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