Mike L.
I have not had much to say about Barack Obama's recent snubbing of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, but I came across the following comment that rings true.
I have not had much to say about Barack Obama's recent snubbing of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, but I came across the following comment that rings true.
In a recent Jerusalem Post article about Obama's laughable claim that US will 'do what it must' to stop Iranian nukes, one commenter, mentioning the snub to Netanyahu, saw this response:
Jozek Niegorol
So? He has not arranged the meeting with Danish Prime Minister either.Which was followed by this very apt comment, I thought:
outre136
Neither did he make the US relations with Denmark a major issue in his reelection campaign. Also, I do not remember him asking Denmark to give Greenland independence and stopping all construction there. And I have never heard Obama discussing whether Copenhagen is really the capital of Denmark (or may be it should be given some special international status, given that once Denmark dominated all of Scandinavia, and so Swedes and Norwegians can also lay some claims to it?) Also, I never heard Obama threatening or scolding Denmark.Indeed.
Barack Obama is probably the least friendly president toward the Jewish state of Israel that we have seen in the brief history of that country.
As my dear 'ol dad would sometimes say, "I wouldn't trust that guy as far as I could throw him."
He has given the game away. Tehran knows a weak man when they see one. They remember Carter.
ReplyDeleteR'UH R'OH now AIPAC AND PM Netanyahu are now throwing Israel "under the bus" by saying the following, First AIPAC:
Delete"With Israel and America facing unprecedented threats and challenges in the Middle East, we deeply appreciate the close and unshakeable partnership between the United States and Israel," the statement read. "President Obama and the bipartisan, bicameral congressional leadership, have deepened America’s support for Israel in difficult times."
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4283241,00.html
I guess AIPAC didn't read where you (and your crew here) just explained that the President really loves the Muslim Brotherhood, wants Iran to have a bomb, and hates Israel. I can't understand how they missed that. Maybe they need to read more RJC or ECI press releases.
Oh and I think PM Netanyahu missed that as well... Since here is his quote:
nly two weeks after that dispute broke into the open, Mr. Netanyahu on Thursday praised the warning Mr. Obama gave Iran in his own General Assembly speech on Tuesday.
“I very much appreciate the president’s position, as does everyone in my country,” he said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/28/world/middleeast/netanyahu-warns-that-iran-bombmaking-ability-is-nearer.html?_r=0
Just wondering will you folks be railing against AIPAC and PM Netanyahu as Dhimmi's now? What next? Support Michael Ben-Ari, Ariyeh Eldad or you are weak and spineless? Heh.
Hey volley - if we wanted the opinion of an asshole, we'd consult our own.
DeleteStuart is engaging respectably here, something which is far beyond your capabilities. You may want to look at how he does it. Or how Mike and I disagree, too, for that matter.
As for me, I just left a comment at Commentary, which Jonathan Tobin apparently decided not to approve. We'll see by the end of the weekend if it ever goes up (it's on the PA 'Stop the Vote!" Law), and if it doesn't I'm gonna write about it; I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that perhaps he didn't see it, what with it being Friday night and all, but I think it's just because I crushed his 'argument.' But again, we'll soon see.
And besides, you're certainly familiar with refusing to allow disagreement on your blog, too, after all... aren't you Mr. Deletion?
Anyway.
We engage with people who can disagree agreeably here. You are not one of those people, volley. Anyone here is free to engage you, but from this point on I'd like to let it be known that most of us have decided to ignore you, because you are, quite simply, an odious McCarthyite scumbag.
Oh, and I forgot to mention that for someone who is so petrified that everyone is out to 'out' you and hurt your family,or some such thing, you are at the same time so willing to tell everyone where you went to school, even. Like what you did the last time you and I 'talked' here.
You are the single biggest bullshit artist on the internet. Please don't be surprised when nobody takes you seriously with your 'concerns.'
And I'm out. It looks like the cowardly little internet punk volleyboy1 will wait until I'm away for the weekend to come back.
DeleteAs for me, personally, I'd like to know how many low-income Pennsylvania voters this so-called 'progressive' (pretending to be a liberal) is trying to make sure are registered, and / or have their necessary ID, for the November elections? How many doors has he knocked on this year?
I'm gonna bet none. As opposed to the hundreds I have, but hey. Whatever.
He's too busy sitting on his soft little ass playing keyboard warrior (and occasionally chanting "gimme an O, gimme a B, gimme an A! etc etc"), while almost certainly sending emails to his friends about how awesome he is in Krav Maga and how he's gonna beat up everyone he disagrees with.
The saddest little internet punk on the planet, volleyboy1.
I gotta run, and I'll be back late Sunday night. Later, youze all!
Oh why look, it's Crazy Jay. Hi, Crazy Jay... I just got back to see your drooling little screed or are you too busy puffing you your 6'2" 210 (yeah right - you haven't seen 210 since you were a kid, but Thanks for the laugh though) body. Don't forget Jay, I met you. You are soft, and you are chunky, so please try not to project. You are not tough Jay.. so really, stop talking like you are.
DeleteAnyway, Do you have anything to counter the fact that both AIPAC and the PM of Israel are now praising President Obama. I mean your cohorts here claim he is the worst ever. SO... how about instead of pretending you are some big tough guy - which you aren't in any way shape or form... address the issue.
Mike and crew claim President Obama is Teh worstist ever but, even the PM of Israel and AIPAC thank him for his committment to the nation. So are they Dhimmi's and "Stockholm Syndrome Jews" or perhaps are you folks a "tad" (and when I say a tad I mean like thousands of miles) over the top.
So Jay... either address the issue or STFU. Honestly, you are acting like a little bitch (which is no surprise) but try your best not to.
What do you expect them to say when making public pronouncements?
DeleteAIPAC did not only thank Obama, but "the bipartisan, bicameral congressional leadership" as well. Unlike some, it understands that it's America that supports Israel, and Obama administers that support.
If he was not president, but had a different constituency, would he be an ardent defender of Israel?
Because Netanyahu praised the UN speech does not translate to mean Obama is the best, either. Obama can say the right thing, but his performance does not always measure up. That does not make him the worst. Conversely, he is not so great as some and their crews make him out to be. This black and white mentality is a charade.
To suggest that these were ringing endorsements is simplistic. Using these statements to prove the point is tenous.
They praise him out of fear, and for damn good reason.
DeleteWhat oldschool said. And I don't have a 'crew,' but there you go projecting again. Just as with the rest of your comment.
DeleteSometimes I agree with others here, sometimes I don't. In this case, what else would they possibly say? This isn't the World Wrestling Federation, and they aren't going to attack him with a steel chair at a press conference.
As for the rest, thank you for making my point for me. Considering how fat I must be (lol, okay), one would think it would make me break more of a sweat to get you all riled up. But clearly, nope.
Now shouldn't you be off somewhere advocating for teaching Israeli school children the Palestinian narrative, in your very best 'progressive' (pretending to be a liberal) way? Perhaps after you write more diaries to try to impress Daily Kossers by defending the use of the term 'Israel Firsters' and teling Jews you don't like to move out of the country?
And just as an update, they did eventually publish my comment (and hopefully they'll approve my reply to the reply I received sometime today) there.
DeleteSo Jonathan Tobin and Commentary are clearly more open-minded and secure in their beliefs and opinions than you and your irrelevant blog, too.
Btw, nice textbook definition of webstalking, volley. My other site is not at all I-P related, or even political, yet you clearly feel the need to follow me and take notes of what I say everywhere, and then quote those things elsewhere. Not that it matters, of course, aside from proving that you're a stalker.
Would you like a list of everywhere I post, and would you like me to copy you on all of my personal emails from here on out so as to make your stalking of, and your obsession with, me a little easier? Save you some work?
You sick little creep.
Shut up Crazyman... You are just babbling now.
DeleteSomehow reading some public link that you posted means that I am "webstalking" you? Are you high right now? Seriously. Are you out of your freakin' mind?. Well yeah... but anyway, you might want to learn the definition of "webstalking".
Oh and unlike you, I actually don't take notes about what anyone says... I just thought that, that little note of bravado was pretty funny and kind of pathetic. That's all.
Actually your little story wasn't bad. Very Bukowski like.
I guess this is directed at me? Here comes the volleyboy train wreck, right on schedule, pitiful grammar and all...
DeleteOh, and leave my patented ellipses out of your comments. Wannabe. ;)
As for "little note[s] of bravado," who's the guy who regularly reminds everyone he knows about his alleged martial arts prowess, and who regularly threatens to beat up everyone he disagrees with if he runs into them on the street? That would be you, you soft little phony tough guy. Deny it all you want, but you know you're simply projecting again. As does everyone else who knows you.
Such a sad, immature little fella you are. I'd advise you to grow up, but it's clear that if you're still like this at your advanced age, there's truly no hope for you. I guess the best the rest of us can hope for is that you eventually decide to head back to your own little irrelevant blog (why do you spend so much time here, trying to impress people you claim not to like, btw?), and take your GObama pom-poms with you.
Sigh... you are a sad, pathetic blowhard Jay. I haven't and don't threaten anyone, nor do I have any interest in doing so.
DeleteSo really "puffboy", go on talking your smack because honestly, the more you do, the more you simply show that you are out of your freakin' mind.
Oh, and btw, don't worry I don't actually expect a sane, or even semi-rational answer from you. Just more huffing and puffing of hot air.
Right, I'm sure you don't and you haven't. I only have dozens of pieces of evidence of you having done so over the past 18 months or so, but I won't quote them because I'm not you.
DeleteLying comes as easy to you as does breathing, doesn't it?
No Jay... the only person lying and exaggerating things is you.
DeleteBTW, I love how you claim not to note everything I write and then you say this:
"I only have dozens of pieces of evidence of you having done so over the past 18 months or so.."
Non-existent evidence (and obvious projection there) aside... What is your weird obsession with me, Jay? You see fit to respond to almost (not everything, but almost everything) I write here with some insane screed mixing a combination of insults with straight up delusion. Are you that desperate for attention that you actually need to act like some deranged three year old with a keyboard?
Why can't you simply discuss issues like a normal human being?
This needs to stop, from both directions.
DeleteIt is wrong to demean others this way, and there is too much of it.
Just because you take one side of an argument does not make those on the other side bad or deranged or some other insult.
If the best argument one can make is pejorative, it shows how weak one's position is.
This is just priceless -
Delete"Non-existent evidence (and obvious projection there) aside... What is your weird obsession with me, Jay? You see fit to respond to almost (not everything, but almost everything) I write here with some insane screed mixing a combination of insults with straight up delusion. Are you that desperate for attention that you actually need to act like some deranged three year old with a keyboard?"
Lying clearly does come easier to you than breathing. You are relying on my good nature not to expose you in public (and clearly, you admit that makes me a more trustworthy and honest person than you), and I can give you my word that I won't do it here or in any other public forum. You can deny reality all you want, but not all of us live in your personal fantasy world.
....
As for this -
"Why can't you simply discuss issues like a normal human being?"
I do so everywhere, although not with you because you are a disingenuous bully who constantly moves goalposts and, when backed into a corner, resorts to dealing in defamation and character assassination. Are you seriously going to claim that roughly 90% of your comments at your blog aren't simply calling everyone you disagree with deranged racists?
I treat you, and only you, like this, simply because you deserve no better. You clearly can't take what you constantly dish out, can you?
You can maybe get away with pretending that nobody knows of your history and your personality at places like your own narrow-minded, rigidly enforced blog, but not here.
I only seriously discuss issues with people who have at least an iota of honesty and integrity somewhere in their body.
You do not qualify on that count.
And as for this -
Delete"What is your weird obsession with me, Jay?"
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you here trolling... I mean, posting.... on a blog which is one of my homes, rather than the other way around?
Yeah, I think so. This is particularly rich, btw, coming from the guy who made it clear that I'm not even allowed to comment on his blog, even though he invited me to be a front-pager there. Would you like some cheese with that whine, Mr. Deletion?
As long as you continue to post here, you'll have to see me. Deal with it.
Fair enough, school.
DeleteAs for this -
"Just because you take one side of an argument does not make those on the other side bad or deranged or some other insult."
I'm not the one who engages in that particular activity, as I'm sure you know, and as I said above, I only treat that particular guy as I do because he deserves no better, and for once he's getting a taste of his own medicine (which he clearly finds foul - something for him to think about).
But okay, I realize this may not be the forum for that.
Although I will, in closing, bring to your attention the "taking history under consideration" argument which you yourself made elsewhere recently (and with which I fully agree), and I do believe noting exactly who and what this guy (and this guy alone) is, is at least of some value in that regard.
Ok... Nice try Jay, but, I am not threatening nor have I threatened anyone. Period. As for your "good nature" .... no, I am not relying on anything (particularly something I don't believe you have - as I think you have seriously lost all control over yourself). I never did what you are accusing me of, so I am not really worried. IF you want to start publishing a series of private emails then that's on you. I am sure that everyone who you email with would just love to see you do that.
DeleteAs for the rest of this long, pathetic screed I guess the answer can be summed up as "Yes, I am seriously deranged and that I get some weird form of entertainment from insulting someone on the internet". Again, do you really need the attention that badly?
As for this:
"Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you here trolling... I mean, posting.... on a blog which is one of my homes, rather than the other way around?"
Ummm, I commented on a story that had nothing to do with you whatsoever. If you look at all of your latest screeds they all start with you responding to something that was not addressed to you or had anything to do with you. You just simply see that I wrote a comment and start ranting away. It's a weird obsession Jay and again, it leads me to ask, do you need my attention that much?
"As long as you continue to post here, you'll have to see me. Deal with it."
Ok... So what. If you want to illustrate to everyone just how batshit insane you are... have at it.
Unless you're typing on a Fisher Price Scooby Doo keyboard, you never came on here to honestly engage anyone. I'd advise you to go back and read your own comment again.
DeleteRather, in your usual immature style you chose to essentially post a "neener neener!" 'comment' at a site full of people you claim to dislike, yet which you regularly try to impress.
I'm done here, out of respect for oldschool's point, and also - thank you for the doublespeak admission that you have indeed threatened to beat up people you don't like on email, even as you deny there's anything like that out there. You certainly do have talent on the "I'm a pathological liar but trust me on this!" count.
WOW... just wow, this just gets a HUH?:
DeleteUnless you're typing on a Fisher Price Scooby Doo keyboard, you never came on here to honestly engage anyone. I'd advise you to go back and read your own comment again.
I am not sure what this even means. What does what kind of keyboard I have, have to do with whether I "honestly engage" anyone or not? That's just a goofy, and strange line.
As for:
Rather, in your usual immature style you chose to essentially post a "neener neener!" 'comment' at a site full of people you claim to dislike, yet which you regularly try to impress.
Wait... you think I am trying to "impress" anyone here? Really? Do you know what the word "impress" means? It doesn't mean what you seem to think it means unless you think "impress" means to counter false memes regarding liberal/progressive Jews and their political affiliations.
As for the "threats" thing... Keep making stuff up Jay - it's par for the course.
Oh and as for your pathetic cry for attention here:
"...you never came on here to honestly engage anyone."
So this is how you justify your strange need to be a blowhard on the intertoobz? It seems that you feel that if I engage here you simply can't control yourself and have to jump in with some laughable, pathetic screed. Okay then... Again, have it if you really want to show people just how batshit insane you are. No worries here.
Had to come back for one more, and that's it. (sorry, school!)
DeleteWhen you send this one out to all your buddies and chortle about how you 'crushed' me (as you've done thousands of times - my 'favorites' were when you'd cluelessly reply to a thread about someone's family sickness with a link to your latest heroic internet adventures), I truly hope some of them by now will let you know you really need to rein things in.
Talk about someone who's lost control. I find it astounding that nobody feels the need to mention to you how unhinged you are once you get to 'battling your enemies' on the internet. You put the "ass" in embarrassment.
Seriously, slow down dude. You're getting old, and this raging anger can't be good for your heart.
Have a nice day.
What in G-d's name are you babbling about?
DeleteYou really obviously have some strange obsession/need to work out with regards to me.
You also have some real issue regarding self importance. We don't ever talk about you there. Sorry.
Again, I don't understand your obsession with me or your foaming at the mouth need to go nuts when you see my name, but, hey... if that is what "floats your boat"... have at it.
I feel reasonably certain that Obama is going to win the election.
ReplyDeleteMy prediction from the beginning was that he would get 65 percent, or less, of the Jewish vote, thereby dropping about 15 percent in American Jewish favorability.