Israel Thrives: Rogue Elements

Thursday, September 6, 2012

Rogue Elements

Doodad

So, Alan Dershowitz has found the problem with the DNC debacle...rogue elements.

Exclusive: Dershowitz Blames “Rogue” Democrats for DNC Jerusalem Debacle, Calls on President Obama to do More

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Speaking of “rogue elements” within the Democratic party, which he said range from Arab-Americans to anti-Israeli American Jews, Dershowitz said it was their goal to end the alliance between the United States and Israel, and that the 2008 language regarding Jerusalem, Hamas, Palestinian refugees, and Israel’s borders were all left out of the initial 2012 platform due to their efforts.
“I think these rogue elements had a hand in changing the 2012 platform from the 2008 one. Whatever the arguments and justifications are, there is no doubt in my mind that there are these rogue elements within the Democratic party, and they are trying to exercise influence,” he told The Algemeiner. “If they had their way, (they) would end the kind of positive relationship between Israel and the United States.”

Dershowitz said that delegates “tend to reflect the extremes of the party”, which he says are a minority on the left, however he does not believe there was the two-thirds vote necessary to amend the Democrat’s platform language on Israel, which passed when convention chair and Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa passed the measure after three separate votes.
“I do not believe that two thirds of the delegates voted to change the platform. I think that there was a statement made by the chairman, but I don’t think he was right about that,” Dershowtz said to The Algemeiner. “From the voices that I heard, it sounded like it was split down the middle, with maybe a slight majority in favor of changing the platform.”

Yeah, rogue elements which seem to compose about 50% of the delegates according to the voice vote. You know, I like Dersh but those are some strong rose colored glasses he is wearing. 50% ain't rogue. But you can't blame him really. He isn't the only Dem we know who can't quite see the writing on the wall is he? Hey, look at all those "rogue elements," over at dKos.

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DoodadSeptember 6, 2012 at 7:16 PM
"Analysts have noted that the DNC’s cowardice and confusion is a result of the breadth of the views within the party base on the issue. In the video above, delegates wearing “Yalla Vote” t-shirts and brandishing “Arab American Democrat” placards are some of the most vociferous opponents to the amendment proposed to reinstate the omitted text.

Effectively, what this proves is not that the Democratic Party have sinister motivations behind their approach to the Middle East conflict, but rather, that they are a party torn on the matter – and therefore cannot be trusted.

When the Chairman of the convention called a vote from the floor to approve the amendment, there was, for most people present and watching, no two-thirds majority (required) on the matter.

The vote had to be repeated twice more, at which point the Chairman decided that, despite it being unclear as to whether there was indeed a majority, the amendment would pass.

Following the decision, the convention floor echoed with boos and jeers, a reflection that in reality, the Democratic Party is unable to decide either way as to whether it remains a strong ally of Israel that believes in Jerusalem as its capital – or whether they are hedging their bets to placate a large number of Democratic Party voters who are either pro-Palestinian, anti-Israel, or simply unsympathetic to the Jewish state."

http://www.thecommentator.com/article/1618/democratic_convention_disasters_prove_obama_s_party_cannot_lead_on_middle_east_peace_process

The Dems are indeed, as we have been saying here more or less, a party divided.
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Mike L.September 7, 2012 at 10:19 AM
The changes in the Dem Party platform viz-a-viz Israel are very telling.

Liberal diaspora Jews, for the most part, continue playing like ostriches.
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DoodadSeptember 7, 2012 at 2:43 PM
"More than anything else, the floor vote showed how out of step a large and significant constituency in the Democratic Party is with the basic character of their country. The spectacle should raise concerns among all supporters of Israel who believe Obama's pro-Israel list is proof they have a safe home today in the Democratic Party."

http://www.carolineglick.com/e/2012/09/god-jerusalem-and-american-for.php?utm_source=MadMimi&utm_medium=email&utm_content=God%2C+Jerusalem+and+American+foreign+policy&utm_campaign=20120907_m113448193_God%2C+Jerusalem+and+American+foreign+policy&utm_term=Continue+Reading___
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Daniel BielakSeptember 8, 2012 at 6:00 AM
Mike,

First of all, the concept that you expressed of "the progressive movement" is faulty.

Contemporary so-called "Liberals" (of which I used to take for granted I was one) began to call themselves "Progressives" in, I think, the 1990's, and did so, I think, because, at that time, the term "liberal" was beginning to be largely stigmatized -- and, I think that that changing of calling "liberal" to "progressive" may have been initiated by "Left Wing" actual "Progressives".

The Progressive movement began at the turn of last century (in, I think, the early 1900's) and was an outgrowth of Marxism -- or was a political movement which, like Marxism, was an outgrowth of late 18th century European Socialism (European modern totalitarianism -- European modern utopian totalitarianism) -- and was (and is) an international -- West European and American -- political movement. This original so-called "Progressive" movement, in the U.S., was enjoined largely by members of the Republican party -- senior members of the Republican party -- the Republican establishment (including people such as Woodrow Wilson) -- and was enjoined by, and financed by, organizations of the wealthiest members of the "ruling class" in the U.S. -- The Carnegie Institute, The Rockefeller Institute, etc.

I think that an organization of the Republican establishment that was an important part of what was the "Progressive movement" within the Republican establishment was the organization Skull and Bones.

The "Progressive movement" was enjoined, in Europe, by self-professed Marxists who subsequently immigrated to the U.S. and who founded the so-called "Left-Wing" "version"/"faction" of "Progressive movement" in the U.S.

The developers of the "Progressive movement" consciously strategically adopted psychological influencing techniques developed by the German 19th century behavioral psychologist Wilhelm Wundt (the precursor of Ivan Pavlov (the teacher of Soviet behavioral psychologist Alexander Luria)). The developers of the "Progressive movement" were who invented, and who first used, the concept and term "Political Correctness".

The "Progressive movement" was (and is) a totalitarian "social-re-ordering" (and, in their words: "One World Government") political movement -- a Socialist Fascist political movement -- and is enjoined by, and is being engaged in, in certain ways variant to each other, by, groups which most people think of, erroneously, as being ideologically opposite to each other:

O The Republican establishment in the U.S. (the Bush family, etc.)
O The European Union (a totalitarian unelected body which is led by former members of the regimes of Soviet Communist states)
O The (actual Marxist) organizations of the "Left-Wing" "Progressive movement" in the U.S. (which are now the financial and ideological core organizations of the Democrat political party in the U.S. (and which have completely infiltrated and altered the Universities and colleges of the U.S.))

The Republican establishment (not the intellectual modern "Conservative" (Classical Liberal) movement (Thomas Sowell, etc.), and not the grass-roots modern "Conservative" (Classical Liberal) movement (the (libeled) Tea Party, etc.); and, BTW, also not Paleo-Conservatives (racist anti-Jewish, white-supremacist, Christian-supremacist, "old-school" "Conservatives" (Pat Buchanan, etc.)) IS SOCIALIST TOTALITARIAN (Fascist) (as is the contemporary so-called "Left-Wing" U.S. faction of the "Progressive movement" -- whose members and organizations now constitute the controlling core of the Democrat political party in the U.S.).

The Progressive movement has completely infiltrated, and has set the agenda of, the political systems, and educational systems, of the U.S. and Europe.
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Randall KohnSeptember 8, 2012 at 6:54 AM
Pssstttt...Wilson was a Democrat. Were you thinking of Teddy Roosevelt?
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Barack Obama on the so-called "Arab Spring" (May 19, 2011):

"There are times in the course of history when the actions of ordinary citizens spark movements for change because they speak to a longing for freedom that has been building up for years. In America, think of the defiance of those patriots in Boston who refused to pay taxes to a King, or the dignity of Rosa Parks as she sat courageously in her seat."

The "Arab Spring" was the brutal rise of political Islam in the Middle East and this is what Obama compares the Civil Rights Movement to?

How's that for a kick in the head to Martin Luther King, Jr.?

The Fundamental Argument:

The progressive movement, and the activist base of the Democratic Party, creates and supports venues that demonize and defame the Jewish state, thereby also creating hatred toward the Jewish people.

Such venues include political journals, such as, but not limited to, Daily Kos, the Huffington Post, and the UK Guardian, numerous universities throughout the United States and Europe, various NGOs with an anti-Israel agenda, and the entire progressive-left movement to boycott, divest from, and sanction (BDS) the Jewish people of the state of Israel.

These venues and organizations do not generally criticize Israel, but dehumanize that country.

For this reason, among others, the progressive movement, and the activist base of the Democratic Party, undermines the well-being and safety of Jews around the world, sometimes resulting in violence toward us.

Therefore, as a matter of common sense and basic human decency, Jews should leave the progressive movement and the Democratic Party as we seek to build alternative political structures that are not home to toxic anti-Semitic anti-Zionists, who would see us robbed of self-determination and self-defense.

What You Can't Discuss:

This is a partial list of taboo topics within progressive-left venues around the Arab-Israel conflict. You cannot discuss this material because it undermines the "Palestinian narrative" of perpetual victimhood. This narrative is a club used by the Arab and Muslim enemies of Israel, along with their western progressive allies, to delegitimize that country in preparation for its eventual dissolution.

1) The centuries of Jewish dhimmitude under the boot of Islamic imperialism.

2) The recent construction of Palestinian identity, its connection to Soviet Cold War politics, and how this is an Arab people with a Roman name that refers to Greeks.

3) Arab and Palestinian Koranically-based racism as the fundamental source of the conflict.

4) The ways in which contemporary progressive anti-Zionism serves as a cloak for gross anti-Semitism.

5) The Palestinian theft and appropriation of Jewish history.

6) "Pallywood."

7) The historical connections between the Nazis, the Muslim Brotherhood, and the Palestinian national movement.

8) The perpetual refusal of the Palestinian-Arabs to accept a state for themselves in peace next to the Jewish one.

9) The progressive portrayal of terrorists as those fighting a righteous war of "resistance."

10) The Arab-Palestinian indoctrination of children with Jew hatred.

11) Human rights violations against women, children, and Gay people in the Muslim Middle East.

12) The fact that violent Jihadis call themselves "Jihadis" and claim to love death above life.

This is only a partial list, so please let us know the many more that we are missing.

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Thursday, September 6, 2012

Rogue Elements

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