Thursday, September 13, 2012

Daily Kos Reveals Moral Bankruptcy of the Left

Mike L.

If you got to http://www.dailykos.com/tag/Libya you will see that there are over 100 "diaries" in the past two days alone concerned with the Jihadi attack on American diplomats in Libya.

Do you know what you will not find? Virtually none of the "diaries" condemn the attacks in a straightforward manner. They are using this incident to kick the holy crap out of Mitt Romney, and out of Israel, naturally (despite the fact that Israel had nothing whatsoever to do with the attack) but have virtually nothing to say about the Jihadis who killed the Americans.

This is how morally bankrupt the left has become.

Innocent Americans got slaughtered by radical Islamists and all they can think to do is kick around the Republican presidential candidate and the Jewish state of Israel.

I cannot even begin to describe just how disgraceful this is.

But, I suppose it's not particularly surprising. These are people, after all, who continue to think that the misnamed "Arab Spring" was about the great upwelling of democracy. The truth, of course, is that it was about the great upwelling of radical Islam, but they will never admit that to themselves.

I wonder why?

What is it about the progressive-left that they cannot bring themselves to condemn a rising political movement that targets Jews and gay people for death and that subjugates women?

In a recent comment on another website about this matter I wrote the following:

Well, the truth of the matter, of course, is that the rise of the radical Jihad, which is a genocidal anti-Semitic, misogynistic, and deeply homophobic movement, is the single most significant geo-political development since the fall of the Soviet Union. Country after country in the Middle East has fallen to "political Islam," including most famously Egypt, and the progressive-left turns a blind eye.

In this way, the progressive movement has made of itself an irrelevancy because it no longer stands for anything that could possibly be regarded as "universal human rights."

Your movement has betrayed its very reason to be out of the unacknowledged tension between human rights and multiculturalism.

These concepts are entirely irreconcilable and they represent the fundamental contradiction which has made the progressive movement incoherent.

When your movement chose the multiculturalism thing over universal human rights you, by logical necessity, turned your collective backs on women in the Middle East, gay people in the Middle East, and Jews in the Middle East.

This means that the progressive-left, as a political movement, stands for nothing.

They stand for nothing.

Not a precious thing.

42 comments:

  1. Totally disgraceful as you say but not unexpected. Most are not playing with that full a deck.

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  2. Not quite sure it's true that they* stand for nothing, at least domestically.

    I wouldn't argue your point re: foreign affairs, though. I'm torn myself in that I'm generally an isolationist at heart, but I accept that in reality that isn't an option. So what do we do? Fuck if I know. I'm glad it ain't my job. But I sure know accession by silence (let alone blaming us for shit like this) sure won't work.

    The mixed message of equal rights for all here at home, and silence in the face of aggressive political Islam elsewhere (or even when it attacks us on our own soil, which is what US embassies are), which stands pretty much diametrically opposed to the aforementioned, is absolutely a problem.

    (*I've never considered myself part of any 'progressive movement,' as I hold more than a few positions -- like guns, for one glaring example, as well as a set of ideas on urban planning and sustainability / energy issues that don't really fit into any neat mainstream ideological box -- outside of what is generally considered their mainstream of thought, although I am a Democrat, and I am absolutely a man of the political left)

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    1. And now here's a question, because I truly can't think of the answer offhand (and I'm not a conservative, so I can't answer it myself, and out of respect for them I won't make an attempt to generalize) - what is the flip side of that coin? What is the generally accepted collective conservative movement's position on how to deal with stuff like this?

      I'm really curious, now that I think of it.

      And once again, yeah. The Daily Kos hate parade against conservatives and Mitt Romney on this is ludicrous. On that alone, they're opening themselves up to your criticism. Can't we just all agree that these disgusting attacks (and those like them) are the fault of those who perpetrated them, and nobody else? And that these are bad people representing a political movement which would seek to take us back to the Dark Ages?

      But I don't even know if I'm making any sense anymore, just thinking out loud right now, so I'll cut this right here for the moment...

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    2. Jay,

      you make a fair point on domestic policy and the thing of it is most of my friends are on the left.

      I'm always a tad concerned about insulting people who might say to themselves, "Heyy! I'm a progressive and Lumish is insulting me!"

      But none of this is meant to be personal. I have strong criticisms of the progressive-left, obviously, and I always hope those criticisms are addressed on the merits.

      Also, of course, I would have characterized myself as a member of the progressive-left until fairly recently. My suspicion is that if we were to go down the list of issues, you and I would see more eye to eye than we might otherwise realize.

      Cheers!

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    3. Oh, I absolutely get all of that. Sorry if I gave off an impression otherwise. Especially the last point. I have, after all, defended you on that last point numerous times against a shameless partisan hack who insists on characterizing you otherwise...

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    4. Y'know, I want to give your question concerning conservatives the attention that it deserves.

      I'll probably get to it later this evening.

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    5. Cool, thanks. And I hope it's clear I asked that question with all due respect, and that I did not do so out of some sort of partisan warfare.

      I've moved beyond that, after all.

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    6. Jay, you asked this:

      What is the generally accepted collective conservative movement's position on how to deal with stuff like this?

      That's a tough question for me to answer, as well, because I am a stranger to the conservative movement.

      What seems clear to me is that, in terms specifically of the Libyan murders and the Egyptian riots is that most of the progressive-left, including apparently the Obama administration, believes that it was that obscure film trailer that set off this recent round of rioting and murder and rapes and plundering and burning... and whatever.

      The conservatives seem to be suggesting, and I think that they probably have a case, that none of this really has anything to do with this alleged movie that no one has ever seen.

      What the right is saying is that all of this is really about 9/11.

      I suspect that they are correct.

      I cannot really answer your question, tho, because I do not know how they would deal with it.

      What I know for sure is that Barack Obama should never have suggested that the misnamed "Arab Spring" was something akin to the Revolution of '76 or the Civil Rights Movement of the Martin Luther King era.

      It clearly shows us that this man is not to be trusted... in my opinion, of course.

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    7. I agree that this was not a spontaneous thing about some stupid film (which said 'film' was ultimately nonetheless blamed on Jews with the aid of the sensationalist mainstream media and their aversion to fact-checking - thanks guys! You make 'Jersey Shore' look like Walter Cronkite, you worthless shitheels), anyone with a brain could have figured that out simply based upon the date it occurred.

      And I also agree with this -

      "What I know for sure is that Barack Obama should never have suggested that the misnamed "Arab Spring" was something akin to the Revolution of '76 or the Civil Rights Movement of the Martin Luther King era."

      As for the last sentence, I'll disagree. He has spent the last few years knocking off terrorist after terrorist, after all. But this is where reasonable people can agree to disagree, I guess...

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    8. That's fair.

      You know what we can show them, tho?

      Let's show them a Jewish Obama supporter and a Jewish Obama detractor speaking together freely in a friendly manner straight up to the election.

      I like that idea.

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    9. I'd support that.

      And maybe I can even be the guy in the middle... ;)

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  3. The hypocrisy is abundant. They are condemning Romney for doing what politicians in a race for Prez do. Of course he used it to his advantage just as they and the Obama camp are now doing. Everybody thinks their own poop don't stink. Well guess what? PU.

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    1. I agree fully with this. That's why I don't get any of the rancor and bickering anymore. They all do it, and since I began my slow process of stepping out of the dKos box, I've been able to see this all too clear. And it's been a rather cringeworthy realization, for the record...

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  4. The shit has just BEGUN to hit the fan about all this.

    "Exclusive: America 'was warned of embassy attack but did nothing'

    The US administration is now facing a crisis in Libya. Sensitive documents have gone missing from the consulate in Benghazi and the supposedly secret location of the "safe house" in the city, where the staff had retreated, came under sustained mortar attack. Other such refuges across the country are no longer deemed "safe".

    Some of the missing papers from the consulate are said to list names of Libyans who are working with Americans, putting them potentially at risk from extremist groups, while some of the other documents are said to relate to oil contracts.

    According to senior diplomatic sources, the US State Department had credible information 48 hours before mobs charged the consulate in Benghazi, and the embassy in Cairo, that American missions may be targeted, but no warnings were given for diplomats to go on high alert and "lockdown", under which movement is severely restricted."

    Read the whole sickening mess

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/revealed-inside-story-of-us-envoys-assassination-8135797.html

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  5. Another story is saying that Marines in the Cairo embassy were not allowed Live Ammo ffs.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/report-says-u-s-marines-cairo-not-allowed-to-carry-live-ammunition

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  6. Some of you probably remember Egyptian blogger Sandmonkey. He tweets about the Cairo Embassy:

    "My contacts within the embassy confirm that all security vanished 4 pm before the demos started."

    http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/09/13/stunner-the-security-people-just-all-ran-away/

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  7. Btw, where's Nagaura to apologize for spreading the lie that the filmmaker was an Israeli Jew? Now that we know he wasn't?

    Well, 'progressives' like her are clearly never wrong, and even though the filmmaker was lying and inciting age-old racist hatred against Jews, I'm sure her ultimate 'point' was somehow right, in her mind, in the end. I'm sure.

    That's the way it always goes with those types, right?

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    1. Trouble is Jay, if you look at dKos and Mondoshit and elsewhere, they aren't really convinced the Jews/Bibi/Mossad didn't have anything to do with it. They never are. I guess evolution says some people just have to be that dumb to balance out the old equation or something.

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    2. Yeah, exactly.

      And this brings us back around to the ultimate problem, again. Wtf do you do with idiots like this?

      We really can't just ignore them, because they (somehow, some way, against all reasonable odds) do manage to maintain some amount of credibility with a certain percentage of the population. Astounding though that fact may be.

      So then what?

      Blah, I don't know. I guess that's my job, as one who's chosen to remain within the left. It's to counteract morons like this, through our own language. Jon Haber at Divest This! has touched on this, and I wish I could put what I'm thinking into words better at the moment, but right now I'm distracted by the Phillies game (PHIL-PHUCKING-LEES-WHOO!!!!!!), so maybe I can touch on this some more tomorrow...

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    3. To the extent necessary, bring forth the voices of the cognizant oppressed, like Ayaan Hirsi or Simon Deng, along with indisputable facts, to stand alongside and in contrast for the interested to discover.

      Perhaps the open minded percentage of the population just needs more information that is credible and reliable, offered without superfluous vitriol, even when that is what is received.

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    4. Great suggestion, 'school. I'm slowly trying to get to that point, myself. I think for the moment I'm still a little aggravated by the extreme idiocy proudly on display by so many on my 'side,' but I realize I need to get beyond that. I will, soon...

      Thanks!

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    5. "Wtf do you do with idiots like this?"

      TELL THE FRICKIN TRUE FACTUAL HISTORY AND CURRENT REALITY OF THE SITUATION!

      And present, and join with, people such as the following people!

      (The anti-Jewish racists have their Kapos and Theobald's of Cambridge -- the most lethal weapons in their arsenal. It's time for Jewish people to get smart (basic normal human intelligence) and join with, and present, ex-Muslims, and truly "moderate" Muslims (non-Sharia-proponent Muslims (non-orthodox Muslims)), and non-Muslim non-Jewish Middle Easterners, who know the truth about Israel and the war on Israel, and who tell the truth about Israel and the war on Israel, and who, therefore, and therein, are defenders of Israel.)

      ----

      Ex-Muslim, whistleblower Imani cautions 'infidels': "Stop sharia before it stops you" (interview includes the telling of facts about the nature and actions and intentions of the regime in Iran)
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXzDAhQPcX0

      Islam was not for me - Amil Imani (Free Iran)
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4_BfhrIxg8

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      Reza Kahlili, former member of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard:

      Iranian Freedomfighter Warns the West
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1D2LQ11n6w

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      An Essential Primer on Islam by Coptic-Egyptian American political Analyst Raymond Ibrahim:

      Raymond Ibrahim: The Muslim Perspective
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-MXrGjujjo

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      Israel's Partners for Peace: What They Say in English vs. What They Say in Arabic, by Khaled Abu Toameh, Arab Israeli Journalist
      http://www.hudson-ny.org/1539/palestinians-english-vs-arabic

      On Campus: The Pro-Palestinians' Real Agenda, by Khaled Abu Toameh
      http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/424/on-campus-the-pro-palestinians-real-agenda

      What Does "Pro-Palestinian" Really Mean?, by Khaled Abu Toameh
      http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/921/what-does-pro-palestinian-really-mean

      Pro-Palestinian or Anti-Israel?, by Khaled Abu Toameh
      http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3035/pro-palestinian-anti-israel

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      Anti-Semitism 2.0, by Mudar Zahran, 'Palestinian' Arab writer and academic from Jordan who currently resides in the U.K. as a political refugee
      http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/1979/anti-semitism-20

      "The concept of the 'evil Jew' has made a well-disguised comeback: Criticizing Israel and Zionists is now deemed a legitimate option to cursing Jews and Judaism. Not only is it open, socially acceptable and legal, but it can actually bring prosperity and popularity. This new form of anti-Semitism 2.0 is well-covered-up, harder to trace and poses a much deeper danger to the modern way of life of the civilized world than the earlier crude form of it, as it slowly and gradually works on delegitimizing Jews to the point where it eventually becomes acceptable to target Jews, first verbally, then physically -- all done in a cosmopolitan style where the anti-Semites are well-groomed speakers and headline writers in jackets and ties; and not just Arab, but American and European, from 'sanitized' news coverage of the most bloodthirsty radicals, to charges against Israel in which facts are distorted, selectively omitted or simply untrue, as in former President Jimmy Carter's book on Israel. ..."

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    6. A brief video of an interview with Kasim Hafeez -- a Pakistani-British, liberal secular, truly "moderate" Muslim (non-Sharia-proponent Muslim (non-orthodox Muslim)), former anti-Jewish racist, formerly Jihadi-ideology-indoctrinated, now advocate for Israel:

      Muslim & Zionist! Kasim Hafeez: "Israel is the only liberal democracy in ME"
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSP2_EsDmyc

      Kasim Hafeez: "I've always said that, with Israel advocacy, we're not getting the truth out there...and the deputy foreign minister's videos that he's done with Stand With Us recently are just what's needed...to tell the truth -- to get the issues of...a 'Palestinian' state has never existed...this is fact, and people don't know this..." "..and it's easily accessable, you can send a video to somebody, they can watch it, and they can find out what's really happening" "...It's very sad. It really is; because a lot of this hatred and intolerance comes from ignorance. People do not know the facts...and I would say to anybody: come to Israel. You see the rights that Muslims have. I mean, I've walked past a mosque litera- [literaly] a few hours ago, you know...and it's a beautiful thing...that Israel is truly a nation of all its citizens." "...Israel can do no right in the U.K. press. Israel always is wrong, and everything always has a very negative slant. It's become very 'black and white', where the 'Palestinians' are right, and Israel is wrong...again, it's helping poisoning people towards Israel because they're not being told the truth of the conflict. ..." "...I think there's a case of: 'if you tell the lie enough times, people accept it as being true'; and, people just don't know; and, it's so key that we get the facts out there. You know, we're sitting here in the Middle East's only liberal democracy, where there are no restriction on what people can believe. People vote for their leaders. People of all colors, all races, all backgrounds co-exist here...and, people just don't know. So, we need to get the truth out there. We have to show, especially in Europe, that this is a liberal democracy. This is the ideals that bind us together; and if we don't stand up for liberal democracy, then what are we really -- what are we standing up for?"

      Kasim Hafeez's web site:

      The Israel Campaign -- Many voices, united for Israel
      www.theisraelcampaign.org

      Kasim Hafeez's blog:

      http://www.theisraelcampaign.org/blog.html

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    7. Thanks, Daniel. I'll look up the names I don't know here. Much appreciated.

      And at the same time, I'll also note that my point above stands - we can have all the truth in the world on our side, but we still have to learn to express this in language liberals understand, as well.

      Take heed - a couple years ago I would have immediately shut down and tuned out upon hearing some of the language we use here today. Nonetheless, I eventually came around to see things as they are. There are many others like the old me out there, who will potentially come around.

      We definitely do need to learn how to couch some of our points in the language of the left. After all, it's not only smart strategy... it's also a natural fit!

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    8. *a natural fit for the real liberals, of course, and not the naive dupes or the "the West is always wrong" crowd...

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    9. "I'll also note that my point above stands - we can have all the truth in the world on our side, but we still have to learn to express this in language liberals understand, as well."

      Yes, I know.

      But it's infuriating.

      The most vile perverse vicious imbecilic absurd lies are ubiquitously told about Israel, and Westerners -- contemporary Western so-called "liberals" and all -- swallow it wholesale.

      But state basic facts about the reality of the situation in clear simple language, and contemporary Western so-called "liberals" think you're a hateful bigot.

      Western anti-Jewish racism is disgusting. It's vile. It's what caused the Holocaust (and it's what caused, and what was constituted by, all of the previous belief in lies about, and hate toward, and the making and enforcing of persecutorial unjust laws against, and the repeated mass-murder of, and the intransigent contempt (expressed as: "I know you're guilty, you lying Jew.") toward, the Jewish people by Christian European, and culturally Christian-European Christian, and culturally Christian-European non-Christian, people for throughout the past two thousand years). (And so is Jewish Stockholm Syndrome disgusting and vile and what caused all of that.)

      It's because the lies are propagated -- in sophisticated and crude -- subtle and gross -- ways -- almost unanimously. Now, most detrimentally, by the Western mass-media almost unanimously. With verbal and visual lies of omission, and with verbal and visual blatant lies. And, also exceedingly detrimentally, by Western academics. With perverse outright blatant lies. It's beyond belief. It's horrific. Western academia has frickin' gone Nazi. The West has gone Nazi.

      But, actually, if the facts about the reality of the situation are stated in clear simple language -- concertedly and vigorously and repeatedly -- Western "liberals" will get it.

      It's just that that's never been done!

      That it's never been done is the whole point. That's the whole reason. That it's never been done is the whole cause of the persistence of anti-Jewish racism, and, as part of that, now belief in malicious lies about, and feeling of antipathy toward, the nation of the Jewish people, Israel.

      It needs to be done.

      "language liberals understand":

      Just state the facts. Concertedly, and clearly, and vigorously, and repeatedly.

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      "natural fit"

      The joining of Jewish people with ex-Muslims, and truly "moderate" Muslims (non-Sharia-proponent Muslims (non-orthodox Muslims)), and non-Muslim non-Jewish Middle Easterners, who know the truth about Israel and the war on Israel, and who are telling the truth about Israel and the war on Israel, is a natural fit.

      Supporting Israel is the natural, perfect, only, fit for authentically liberal people.

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    10. "...Western anti-Jewish racism..."

      ...and Jewish Stockholm Syndrome.

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  8. Just a few 'highlights' from a Daily Kos diary today...

    1) "a forced, if necessary, reopening of the port of Gaza would go a long way to take the wind out of the rightists' sails in Israel as well as dramatically improve our national security."

    Yeah, because nothing would increase the national security of the US so much as allowing that wonderfully progressive peace organization Hamas to freely import all the weapons they desire. And also, Jooz!

    42 recs on that comment, btw. 42.

    2) a concern troll is concerned

    36 recs.

    3) ZOG. Not on StormFront, but on Daily Kos. 13 recs, not even a comment in opposition.

    4) More ZOG. 81 recs and counting on this one. 81. Read the follow-ups for some even 'better' stuff. Like this -

    "I've read estimates that the Democratic Party receives anywhere from 1/3 (Commentary Magazine) to as much as 60% (WaPo) of its campaign contributions from a relative handful of Jewish donors. Republicans also get a lot of money from Jewish donors of a more conservative stripe, and are aggressively trying to woo some of those wealthy donors away from the Dems.

    That's what the strange episode during the convention where Villaraigosa rammed through the "Jerusalem is Israel's capital" plank was all about.

    When Netanyahu calls Obama, and he does so with aggravating frequency according to the president himself, he is quite aware of the influence of the Jewish donors in both parties."


    Remember, this is on a 'progressive' website, not a neo-Nazi website. Though you'd certainly be excused for not being able to tell the difference...

    5) Need I go on? Meh, I'm done wading through that disgusting sewer. Noted antisemite Lefty Coaster is proud of himself today, I'm sure. There are dozens more examples like that there, I only got about 4% in.

    And oh look, David "Useful Idiot" Harris-Gershon (aka The Troubador) is a rec'er of that diary, too! Huge surprise that the pussy who wants to hug the terrorist who almost killed his wife, and did kill nine people, while injuring over another 100, loves 'diaries' like this one. I'm sure he's all kinds of choked up, and all kinds of numb and shit...

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    1. And I just noticed my old 'friend' downsouth is back, the guy who once said -

      "I did not (0+ / 0-)
      say that, and would not say that, because it is not true. I have exactly zero Jewish friends. And if you, Jay, are representative of Jews, then I never will. Accuse me of racism again when it does not exist and you shall be reported.

      Good day.

      Terror has no religion.

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      Emphasis added. This guy is totally not an antisemite, though, remember...

      Anyway.

      Here's this peace-loving American Muslim calling for war on another country. That country would be Israel, of course.

      And here he is flavoring Lefty Coaster's shitpile with some ZOG, just for the heck of it.

      He's a beloved and welcome 'community' member there at that place, of course. While I was run off almost a year ago. For what, I still don't know. But there it is...

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  9. Another off the deep end:

    Why 'Sam Bacile' deserves arrest

    Anthea Butler, associate professor of religious studies, University of Pennsylvania

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/story/2012-09-12/Sam-Bacile-Anthea-Butler/57769732/1

    Apparently, Islamic blashphemy law has become the prevailing norm for this person.

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    1. Wow, I simply don't even know what to say.

      I mean, it begins here...

      "the film mocking the prophet Mohammed"

      ...and the Stupid just snowballs into an overwhelming avalanche from there. I didn't realize there was a universally-acknowledged 'prophet' to which every human on earth must adhere, and show respect to at all times or else? Let alone the whole ditching free speech thing.

      This person is responsible for educating our children? In my very own city, no less, at one of our Ivy League institutions? Seriously?

      Oy.

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    2. Bruce Bawer's new book, The Victims' Revolution: The Rise of Identity Studies and the Closing of the Liberal Mind, may interest you or others.

      http://www.amazon.com/The-Victims-Revolution-Identity-ebook/dp/B007HBGOX2

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    3. Thanks, I had not heard of this one before. I'm gonna check it out. I'll be at my favorite hippie-ish indie book store in Center City tomorrow night anyway, to pick up a used novel I have on hold, and I wonder if they'll look at me any differently from now on once I ask if they can order this...

      ;)

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  10. A recent documentary about contemporary anti-Jewish racism (which is genocidal and ubiquitous):

    Unmasked Judeophobia - The Threat to Civilization

    http://www.facebook.com/UnmaskedJudeophobia

    http://www.unmaskedthemovie.com

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    About Haj Amin al-Husseini:

    Hitler and the Mufti
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sk3fKY9PhY

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    About contemporary anti-Jewish racism:

    Then and Now, Part I
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk0fK_TPhYY

    The Path To The Final Solution
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDVaJXmCIjk

    Muslim Antisemitism Compilation (1/2)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu6Ond1ESq8

    Muslim Antisemitism Compilation (2/2)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLKkhRMi4fQ

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    1. "...I find it shameful and see in all this the rise of a new fascism, a new Nazism. A fascism, a Nazism, that much more grim and revolting because it is conducted and nourished by those who hypocritically pose as do-gooders, progressives, communists, pacifists, Catholics or rather Christians, and who have the gall to label a warmonger anyone like me who screams the truth. ..."

      -- Orianna Falaci, an Italian journalist who opposed fascism, and who fought, as a partisan, against the Nazi-German-allied Fascist regime of Italy during World War II, and who, in the late 1960's, in being, at that time, a trendy Leftist, supported "the 'Palestinian' cause"; Sull Antisemitismo - Io trovo vergognoso (Vergognosi gli attacchi a Israele) (On Antisemitism - I find it shameful (Shameful attacks on Israel)), by Orianna Falaci, 2002

      Text: http://www.oerby.dk/sider/Oriana%20Fallaci.htm
      Audio recording (Video):
      Part 1 of 2: http://www.youtube.com/embed/lS9Dl5YEy3o
      Part 2 of 2: http://www.youtube.com/embed/anTPuAQ1oUU

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    2. OIC top dog: murderous riots "demonstrated serious repercussions of abuse of freedom of expression that OIC had consistently been warning against"
      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/09/oic-top-dog-murderous-riots-demonstrated-serious-repercussions-of-abuse-of-freedom-of-expression-tha.html

      Muslim rioting, violence in Israel, Gaza, Libya, Egypt, Yemen, Sudan, Tunisia, Morocco, Iraq, Iran and Kashmir
      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/09/muslim-rioting-violence-in-israel-gaza-libya-egypt-yemen-sudan-tunisia-morocco-iraq-iran-and-kashmir.html

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    3. VIDEO: SION International Freedom of Speech Congress, September 11

      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/09/video-sion-international-freedom-of-speech-congress-september-11.html

      (Including a talk by Swedish cartoonist Lars Vilks who was violently attacked because of, and who is under death threat for, drawing an irreverent cartoon of the supposed founder of Islam, Mohammed.)

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      About this event:

      Today in New York: SION's World Freedom Congress to combat the war against free speech

      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/09/today-in-new-york-sions-world-freedom-congress-to-combat-the-war-against-free-speech.html

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    4. (BTW: The talk by Lars Vilks is somewhat "emotionally removed" and dryly humorous (partially because of the nature of certain events described in the talk) and the talk is somewhat superficial -- but it's a source of comic relief and it's somewhat informative. And Lars Vilks expresses, in the talk, that he now views the situation that he's in as a fictional story that he's watching. He's doing that to cope. But I think that (as, I understand what the Buddha taught) it's actually, to a certain degree, a right view of one's experiencing experience.)

      The following interview of cartoonist Kurt Westergaard, and of Lars Hedegaard of the International Free Press Society, is more serious. In an interview, I think maybe this one, Kurt Westergaard expressed that he started to become afraid about what is happening in the world when an acquaintance of his who is highly "educated" (I think a doctor) and who is culturally Western, and who is Muslim, expressed complete belief in "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" conspiracy theory about the Jewish people.

      Exclusive interview with Kurt Westergaard and Lars Hedegaard - Part 1 (2009-10-06)

      Part 1 of 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ_x9bSwdnU
      Part 2 of 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBsGGZhgTUY
      Part 3 of 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqvhMFQGan8
      Part 4 of 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMK2zCfQxi4
      Part 5 of 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW9qEMUdmns

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  11. Some of the world view, and the way of thinking, of a Libertarian-leaning (self-professedly formerly "more 'Liberal'" / "Liberal" ) Conservative (about, in this case, particularly, Gay marriage and single motherhood):

    Bill Whittle

    The Stratosphere Lounge Episode 14 (From 12m:32s to 26m:52s)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ThJD_lcZXM&feature=player_detailpage#t=752s

    Quite Buddhist, to a certain degree, actually, I think.

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    Bill Whittle on anti-Jewish racism (the first fifteen minutes or so of the video):

    The Stratosphere Lounge Episode 12
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zo4tTxOTLc

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    Bill Whittle on Israel:

    Bill Whittle on holy war against Israel ( & liberals' unwillingness to acknowledge & confront it)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm20dlibAGk

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    Bill Whittle on Barack Obama:

    (Satirical humorous criticism)

    THAT LOOKS BAD!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJFgWA8odBM

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    1. *"...Quite Buddhist, to a certain degree, actually, I think. ..."

      Rather: Quite Buddhist, in some parts, in some ways, to a certain degree, actually, I think.

      There are some (few) things (I think two or so things) that I understand to be wrong in what Bill Whittle said there in that part of that video. But, in general, I agree with what Bill Whittle said in that part of that video.

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    2. *"Bill Whittle on anti-Jewish racism (the first fifteen minutes or so of the video)"

      Rather: Bill Whittle on anti-Jewish racism and anti-Americanism (the first twenty-five minutes or so of the video)

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      Bill Whittle on European anti-Jewish racism (starting at 23m:38s in the video):

      The Stratosphere Lounge Episode 12

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zo4tTxOTLc&feature=player_detailpage#t=1418s

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      I'm just posting these videos to show a little bit of the world view and way of thinking of Conservatives. I think that the world-view and way of thinking of Conservatives varies. I think that it varies to certain degrees. And, I think that, in many cases, it's more "open-minded" (rational and reasonable)than people who, at the present time, consider themselves to be "Liberal" think that it is. And I think that, in many cases, it's more "open-minded" (rational and reasonable) than is the world view and way of thinking of most people who, at the present time, consider themselves to be "Liberal".

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