Friday, September 14, 2012

"Shut Up," Facebook Explained...

JayinPhiladelphia

After a few happy months free of Facebook, I recently jumped back into the place in order to be able to comment at Mike's Times of Israel pieces.

As a result, I did get back in touch with one of my closest friends from high school.  So that was awesome!  I was also called a Nazi by some lunatic from Europe, and that was not awesome.  But regardless...

One of the groups there which I've come to admire, and follow, upon my return is the Online Hate Prevention Institute, an Australian group run by Dr. Andre Oboler.  I thought Daily Kos was bad, until I got onto Facebook.

If you do Facebook, please report (warning: endless disgustingness at link) this site as a hate site.  There really isn't much to say about it, aside from... wtf is Facebook thinking in allowing this stuff to stay up despite repeated complaints?!

OHPI has a petition online, which I signed days ago, and Dr. Oboler also has a JPost blog up this week on the subject.

The latest outrage involves Facebook sanctioning antisemitic content by dismissing complaints against clear cases of racist hate speech. In one example a picture of a smiling Anne Frank is overlayed with the text “What’s that burning? Oh, it’s my family”. Anotherdepicts a computer keyboard button labelled “Delete Israel” and the text “The much needed button”.  Other examples include Holocaust denial and blood libel. Each of these examples was reported to Facebook, and each of these complaints was resolved with the decision “Not Removed”. The system has no appeal process.
"Shut up," Facebook explains...

Let's let 'em know this is unacceptable.

19 comments:

  1. And just to preempt potential idiots like Nagaura - these racist scum have a constitutional right in our country to say whatever they want. They don't have the 'right' to be able to be able to spread hate on public sites without opposition, however.

    Now, if Facebook does choose to keep this antisemitic shit up, that's to their shame. But calling them out on it isn't a 'free speech' issue.

    Note that neither I, nor anybody else in this campaign, is mobbing the proprietor's home and firing RPGs into it.

    Therein lies the difference.

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    1. Jay, I love the title of this piece!

      :O)

      I laughed my ass off.

      Anyway, the Oakland police dropped in last night for a chit chat. They took down the pertinent info, but it doesn't seem to me that they can, or will, do much of anything about the death threat.

      Today I intend to call the San Francisco Anti-Defamation League office to see what they recommend.

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    2. Thanks, keep us updated!

      I wonder how common these threats are? I only received one such similar one, but it was nowhere near as nasty as yours.

      It was from the user 'Quiet Light' or something like that, at Daily Kos, after a few of us reported him for antisemitism and got him banned. About a year ago, when I was still in Portland. It was something like "I know who you are!' or whatever. Nothing big, but still kind of creepy, as he sent it to an email address I had long since taken down from 'public' view. Even before I jumped into I-P there. So whoever that was, clearly was watching and keeping track of me for a long time. For what, I don't know. But there it is...

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    3. Y'know, it's a very odd thing... this death threat thing.

      Laurie, as you can well imagine, was very upset last night. She cried.

      For my part, I am not particularly concerned that some guy out there is going to take physical action against me, but who knows?

      What I think I will do, tho, is pursue the matter with the ADL (I left a message on their machine, but will definitely talk with them going forward) and perhaps blog about it further.

      This is a very serious matter, isn't it?

      The threat came from "saif El Islam" - killalljew@hotmail.com

      One of the things that the police told me last night was to contact hotmail, as well, and I suppose that makes sense.

      What is unfortunate is that the Oakland police are not really prepared to pursue the matter in any way. My initial thought was that they would simply refer me to whatever government agency, state or federal, that handles matters like this, but they did not.

      So... I just do not know.

      I honestly do not know.

      The least that I can do is exploit the situation by turning it into a Times of Israel piece. Maybe those guys will have some useful advice.

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    4. You'd think Hotmail would have safeguards against people even registering addresses like that, no?

      Yeah, I'd definitely say to document every instance of this. We sure know if it were the other way around, like if prominent Islamist bloggers were getting death threats from Jews, they'd surely raise a huge stink about it.

      I suspect the Oakland Police have things like this on low priority, of course, and I suspect I'd receive similar treatment if I were to file a complaint along these lines with the PPD 26th District... but yeah, I would have thought they'd definitely at least give you a number of someone else to call.

      It is a death threat, after all, and 'terroristic threat' is a first degree misdemeanor which a (temporarily insane, and very stupid) friend of mine in New Jersey once did six months in a county jail for.

      Sorry to hear about Laurie. These scum shouldn't be able to affect good people in ways like this...

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    5. I'm sorry to hear about Laurie, too.

      I hope that she feels better.

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    6. Thanks, Dan.

      Laurie is tough as nails.

      She just not used to this kind of thing, as I am not.

      So far I have contacted the Oakland police department, the ADL in SF, and Front Page Mag's newsrealblog alums.

      It turns out that I am not the only pro-Isael blogger or journalist to receive this particular threat from this particular guy.

      The SF FBI is next.

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    7. The FBI would be appropriate. There is federal law prohibiting death threats over the internet, with both criminal and civil penalties. They must be much better equipped to deal with this type of crime than the Oakland PD.

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    8. Whoa, yeah. If he's known to others, I'd definitely say that takes it up a level. Should only now be a matter of law enforcement tracing IP addresses, no?

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    9. That's a great point, Stuart -

      "They must be much better equipped to deal with this type of crime than the Oakland PD."

      There's a story in here about how overwhelmed our local law enforcement agencies are, especially in our poorer cities like Oakland and Philadelphia, which needs to be addressed.

      I've been thinking this problem over for a while now, particularly since the robbery-murder just down the street from me here in Philadelphia last month of Officer Moses Walker just after he got off his shift and was walking to the bus on his way home. Will take a while to coordinate my thoughts on this, and make any sense of them, though...

      But, yeah. On the back of my mind this whole time, is "what if?"

      For now, the best Mike can do is bring in the FBI, especially considering this guy is known to others.

      As ridiculous as it may sound in a one-off situation, if this person has a pattern of doing this... well, there are many unbalanced people out there, as we all know. At the very least, it won't hurt to have the proper authorities look into it.

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  2. An e-mail mailing list message that I received from Eric Allen Bell:

    My Fellow Infidels:

    Facebook has locked my account due to my "Islamophobia" for this post, on 9/11. Note this the following group, despite repeated reports, is allowed to stand according to Facebook:

    "I want to kill all those peoplez who make groups against ISLAM on facebook" at the following link: https://www.facebook.com/groups/174645715934019/

    If you report them, the letter you'll receive back from FB will seem very surreal. Anyway, on to my banned message on Islam:

    ON 9/11 LET US REMEMBER THAT Islam is War. It has been at war, overtly or covertly since it's founder, the "prophet" Mohammed, spread his "religion" through warfare, and became the head of state. Islam is about control, conquest and domination. Islam is war. And what is the first casualty in war? The first casualty in war is the truth. Islam is deception. Even a huge percentage of the followers of Islam are deceived as to what it really is. What have a word for such people and that word is, "Moderate Muslims".

    And according to Islam, Muslims are not only allowed to deceive for the sake of Islam, they are commanded to do so. In Islam there is no right and wrong - only that which is commanded and that which is forbidden. Islam has no golden rule, no conscience. The very word itself, Islam, means submission. If this belief system were a human being, it would have the mind of a rapist. Islam gets off on making you submit. You don't have to like it. You don't have to convert. You just have to submit.

    A non-Muslim is a second-class citizen called a Kafir. You and I are Kafirs. Much of the Koran concerns itself with the Kafir - how to control us, to subjugate us and to kill us. Islam has the mind of a psychopathic rapist and because it's founder, the "prophet" Mohammed was in fact a psychopathic rapist himself. Islam was spread through rape. Women were raped by Muslims when a town was seized by Islam. Mohammed ordered this and participated in this. Islam was spread by rapists. Mohammed even raped a child who was only 9 years old.

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    1. (from continued)

      The Islamic scripture mentions, over 90 times, that Mohammed is the highest moral example. Mohammed personally tortured other human beings, he was a thief, a pedophile, a man who annihilated Jews for Allah, a man who ordered the stoning of women, the beheading of his critics, a man who beat his wives and who forced a woman to marry him, after killing her husband, father, brothers and her entire tribe.

      Islam is a criminal enterprise, using lies about hell and Paradise to manipulate its masses. Islam is terrorism. The "prophet" Mohammed said, "Strike terror into the hearts of the unbelievers" and "I have become victorious through terror". Islam is terrorism. The civilized people on planet Earth seek to evolve. It's what we have done over time, and it's what we week to continue to do. Civilized people evolve. But Islam forbids critical thinking. Instead, Islam demands that we all follow Islamic Law - the Sharia. You have one freedom under Sharia and that is to follow the Sharia.

      Islam seeks to take away your freedoms and mine. It is a 1,400 year old human rights nightmare which must not continue. Today, as I remember all of those innocent souls who lost their lives on 9/11, because of Islam, I reaffirm my commitment to fight Islam until it is destroyed and it is destroyed completely.

      Islam and human rights cannot coexist. Islam and Liberty cannot coexist. Islam and America cannot coexist. We must end Sharia in our time. And if we are to evolve and to survive, as a species on this planet, we must wipe out Islam entirely. We must destroy Islam completely. The slightest trace of this Cancer called Islam will try to grow back. The civilized world, which is superior to Islam in every way, simply cannot afford that.

      We must crush Islam and destroy it completely. Islam must die in order for all that is good in this world to continue. If you are Muslim, seek help for this mental illness. If you are a person of conscience, know that Islam has one enemy which has the power to destroy it completely and that is TRUTH. The enemy of Islamic supremacy is information. Spread it like napalm.

      Peace, as we remember all those who lost their lives on September 11, 2001.

      - Eric Allen Bell
      www.Facebook.com/EricAllenBell

      Visit Global Infidel TV at: http://www.globalinfidel.tv

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    2. Eric Allen Bell was, I think, more mellow in his telling the truth Islam when he first discovered the facts about Islam and about the contemporary Islamic supremacist political movement.

      However, what he has experienced since then, as a result of his exposing Islam, has, I think, made him more fervent, and his speech more harsh, in his telling facts about Islam.

      After Eric Allen Bell wrote facts about Islam on dkos, he was banned from dkos, and he was shunned by the Left which he was a member of, and he lost many of his previous friends, and he was targeted and libeled by an Islamic supremacist front-group propaganda web site, and he has lost his livelihood (while those who now oppose him are accusing him of doing for money what he is now doing -- his telling the truth about Islam). And I think that, since then, he has learned more about the extent of the infiltration of the U.S. government by the Muslim Brotherhood (and I think that, since then, he has learned more about the extent of the infiltration of the U.S. government by the Islamic supremacist political movement in general).

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      The following article is one of the first articles that Eric Allen Bell wrote about Islam after he discovered the truth about Islam (which is an article that he wrote before he created the web site globalinfidel.tv):

      The High Price of Telling the Truth About Islam - How making a film to defend Muslims' right to build a mosque in America changed my world view, by Eric Allen Bell
      http://www.globalinfidel.tv/profiles/blogs/high-price-of-telling-the-truth-about-islam

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    3. Islam was not for me - Amil Imani (Free Iran)
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4_BfhrIxg8

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      http://www.faithfreedom.org

      http://www.apostatesofislam.com

      http://www.amilimani.com

      http://www.youtube.com/user/ExMuslimUK

      http://www.youtube.com/user/AhmadsQuran5

      http://www.youtube.com/user/exmuslimNfree

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    4. AMERICA IN CRISIS SECURITY BRIEF: Muslim Brotherhood In The Government by John Guandolo (1of13)
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2ra7wD39dY

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    5. A document uncovered in a bust of a Muslim Brotherhood front-group in the U.S. sometime in the early 1990's (I'm not sure what year) and used as evidence in the "'Holy Land Foundation' Trial" (an Islamic-terrorism-funding trial in the U.S.):

      An Explanatory Memorandum On the General Strategic Goal for the Group In North America, by Mohamed Akram, a.k.a. Mohamed Adlouni, for the Shura Council of the Muslim Brotherhood, 5/22/1991

      http://www.investigativeproject.org/document/id/20
      Direct link to document:
      http://www.investigativeproject.org/documents/misc/20.pdf

      Excerpt:

      "4- Understanding the role of the Muslim Brother in North America:
      The process of settlement is a 'Civilization-Jihadist Process' with all the word means. The Ikhwan must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and 'sabotaging' its miserable house by their hands [the hands of Western civilization] and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion is made victorious over all other religions."

      Note:

      The Ikhwan: the Arabic name of the Muslim Brotherhood

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    6. Ex-Muslim, whistleblower Imani cautions 'infidels': "Stop sharia before it stops you"
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXzDAhQPcX0

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      Center for Security Policy
      http://www.youtube.com/user/securefreedom

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    7. Guys

      I am a friend of Andre Oboler of the Online Hate Prevention Institute, an Australian group run by Dr. Andre Oboler.

      We managed with a huge amount of effort and the help of the ECAJ- Exec. Council of Australian Jewry to get one, just one measly channel closed down. That I had reported and got 100s of people to flag.

      They don't do it easily. Andre has a hell of a job. Facebook is worst.

      לְשָׁנָה טוֹבָה

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    8. Wow, that's kind of what I expected, but still... horrible that that's the case. Argh.

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