Wednesday, February 15, 2012

On Progressive-Left Intolerance

By oldschooltwentysix

As you know, I objected to the deletion of their remarks and indicated that it was not a good decision when VB did it to me either. Their words were silly, and in some cases demeaning, but they help to show where things stand. The more that is out there, the more the truth will rise.

What I did find troubling was the repetitive questioning of sanity and motivation. Why not accept that not everyone sees what occurs the same or from the same level? I oppose trying to jam one's views down the throats of others, no matter from what side. I also oppose defining those who think differently as "others" and there was way too much of that.

I am against banning as well, FWIW.

I am curious to know if these folks think that everything in the world is just fine. It seems so. Because Obama is such a good friend to Israel, we need not look at anything else that is taking place, or discuss the merits of his actions either. Obama's friendship is the only criteria to make a valid judgment.

But what if there are other issues where things are NOT fine, potentially more important, as Jews, democrats, Americans, to peace and security? Why get so apoplectic about those who address what is going on, who wish to provide more food on the table, especially a table that is imbalanced in information?

Are domestic politics their entire universe? Is that how it should be? Or are matters interrelated and interdependent?

Despite accusations, we do not condemn ALL Muslims. We are NOT Republicans. We DO condemn the millions who despise Israel, Jews, American, Westerners, and even our accusers who label us. Ironic, but we actually do it in the name of human rights: for Jews, Americans, women, gays, children, believers, and non-believers. Go figure!

Since late 2006 I have criticized Obama, from the left! Yet now, because I have the audacity to express disappointment in his responses to the onslaught of the OIC, MB and Political Islam in their geopolitical attack against universal human rights, seen daily across the globe, I am harangued as right wing by self professed "better" Democrats than me.

So it goes.



  1. I would prefer to call it intolerance.

  2. The circling of the wagons is perhaps expected in an election year but, as in other years, there will be bloodletting.

  3. I just remain flabbergasted that there are Jews out there who agree with Obama that other Jews should be allowed to live here, but not there.

    And some even want to claim who is worthy, and who is not worthy, of being an American.

    Heck, maybe I'll put A Soldier's Story in the queue.'s_Story 

  4. As for the messages from the banned users that come to me through Disqus, I suggest you reply on your blog if you want.

    I may even reply, but as I stated elsewhere concerning this matter:

    I did not think some of the replies directed to me were objectionable, and was about to answer VB's latest (through Mets) by saying it was a waste, which it is. I have much better things to do than prove myself
    to someone who will always find a reason to malign.

  5. I don't really feel up to doing a post about it but want to point out this  article which I think is relevant to the debate here lately. Have a look

    Prophets and protectors

    Op-ed: Jewish ‘Peace Camp’ and ‘National Camp’ a reflection of centuries-old division among Jews,7340,L-4190426,00.html

  6. Interesting article. Cohen seems to say that only protectors use "discourse reeking with self-righteousness," but the prophets are quite the same.

    I agree 100% with his last paragraph:

    Reconciling Prophets with protectors is not in the cards. But perhaps each can begin to see the value of the other – or even draw upon the sensitivities and worldviews that each bring to the pro-Israel discourse. 

    I think that goes a lot to what has occurred here today, and it is sad when people take the position that one must agree or else.

  7. Off-topic in a specific sense, but on-topic in a general sense:

    A Liberal Bell Warning

    The High Price of Telling the Truth About Islam - How making a film to defend Muslims’ right to build a mosque in America changed my world view, by Eric Allen Bell

    The Cult of The Daily Kos and the Kool Aid of Political Correctness, by Eric Allen Bell


    Truths about Islam and human rights that were too much for the Daily Kos, by Robert Spencer - includes an article by Eric Allen Bell titled "Do You Support Human Rights? This this Simple Quiz"

    Independent thought on jihad and Islam at the Daily Kos, by Robert Spencer - includes an email reply by Eric Allen Bell to Robert Spencer


    Eric Allen Bell, Nonie Darwish, and Mark Tapson, with Jamie Glazov, on the high price of telling the truth about Islam (Video)

    The Glazov Gang - See No Islam, Hear No Islam-Part1

    The Glazov Gang - See No Islam, Hear No Islam-Part2

    The Glazov Gang - See No Islam, Hear No Islam-Part3

  8. And thing of it is, Daniel, Eric Bell is a kind-of hippie-peacenik guy.

    On dKos they were screaming up and down that the guy is a hard-line right-wing Republican, yet if you go to his website you see that he is very much about peace and Eastern spirituality.