Sunday, February 19, 2012

What Do “Progressive Zionists” and Radical Islamists Have in Common?


Well, aside from the fact that “progressive Zionists” and radical Islamists share a pure hatred for western conservatives, the main thing that they have in common is a strong compulsion to tell Jewish people where we may, or may not, be allowed to live.

The Islamists, of course, despise Jewish sovereignty in the land of Israel and scream at us on a more or less daily basis that they intend to commit genocide or push us out of Israel.

(Mentioning this fact, by the way, is considered “racist” among progressives. These alleged humanitarians do not mind that 5.5 million Jews are surrounded by 300 to 400 million Arabs who, for the most part, do not want them there and many of whom are ready to kill and be killed in efforts to prove it. But if anyone mentions this little fact they get their reputations dragged through the mud.)

The “progressive Zionists,” needless to say, do not have genocidal intentions toward their fellow Jews. It’s just that they have specific ideas about which Jews should be allowed to live where. Any Jews who live beyond the Green Line, in Judea, for example, are considered evil “settlers” who must move elsewhere if the Palestinians can ever accept peace for themselves and their children. After all, what kind of moral monster would expect Palestinians to make peace with Jews if they must be forced to live among them?

And, recently, a “progressive Zionist” even wrote a piece suggesting that Jews of a political type that he does not appreciate should get the hell out of the United States and move to Israel.

Y’know, I can almost understand the kind of radical Jihadi conceit which tells them that they have every right to tell Jews where we may, or may not, be allowed to live. They live within a theological system which tells them that Jews are the "children of apes and pigs." I get that. What I fail to understand is just how other Jews could possibly delude themselves that they have such a right or why they would ever choose to exercise such a non-right?

Whatever one is to make of this, it just reeks of malicious arrogance.



  1. I do wish that critics would look closer at themselves, and at situations of human suffering more broadly. Rather, there is too much internal focus on the "deranged," Republicans or otherwise.

    There are so many instances where one could provide information in proper context and promote Israel, Jews, America, the West. Among other things, there is too much fear of ostracism for not coming off as "progressive" from a formulaic perspective, one that worships concepts of multiculturalism that reality has discredited.To these folks I would ask: How do you interpret Resolution 242 with regard to "territories occupied" mentioned therein?    

  2. I don't believe that they even know who their own enemies are.

    This is understandable on the American left, in general, but I do not see how it can be understandable among Jewish progressives.

    That is, the American left resides in the strongest country on the planet, with 350 million people and humongous amounts of land, from sea to shining sea, separating us from hostilities.  They are so insulated and safe that the very concept of "enemy" has come to mean only political enemies, but never the martial variety.

    In the mean time, half the Jewish people on the planet are entirely surrounded by hate and violence.

    Yet "progressive Zionists" choose to make an enemy of conservatives, and those who they mark as Jewish conservatives, rather than face the fact that it is not Netanyahu, but political Islam, that is, in fact, a true enemy of the Jewish people.

  3. You have a problem with liberals calling conservatives deranged. Me too. But you have no problem attributing a particular thought pattern to "progressive zionists". I probably fit the definition of a progressive zionist, yet none of those thought patterns fit me. I think Karma, that you often slip into those same patterns you assail in others. And you know better. You know what attributing characteristics of some members of a group to all members of that group has lead to in the past. Are you really comfortable going there?

  4. Kane,

    your point is understood.

    When I speak about political trends, or sub-trends, such as "political Zionism" I certainly do not mean to implicate everyone who associates with that trend.

    Nonetheless, I definitely believe that if, say, the progressive-left accepted the Klan as part of their larger coalition that Black people would come at the left with everything they have.

    They would fight like hell.

    Yet we accept anti-Semitic anti-Zionists as part of the progressive-left.

    I simply will not.


    btw, if you're available, I would love to hook up for a cup of coffee and some chit chat when I am in Phoenix around the 8th and 9th of March.

    mike.lumishgmail .com

    Lemme know.

  5. Nice Call-out article Karma... You know, you really do yap, way too much. Oh yeah and why don't you shove your "Progressive Zionists are friends with Jihadists" meme straight up your ass. 

    So keep going oh, brave keyboard crusader. You are completely fucked up if you think I or others that support the Israeli Center/Center-Left are your enemy.

    You know what the difference between us is... I (and the others that agree with me) support Israel out of love, respect and the thrill that as Jews for the first time in over 2000 years there is a State for our people. Not too mention that Israel was founded on the strongest of Western (gasp!... modern liberal) ideals.

    You on the other hand only support hate, villianization, and fear of everything else. You hate others more than you care for the thing that you support and you are so fucking hyperbolic on the keyboard where in person you come off as a reasonable guy - baffles the crap out of me.

    Oh yeah and will you stop lying about me and what I posted - Get it straight. No one ever told you to "leave or get the fuck out" of the U.S. What the fuck is wrong with you?