Saturday, November 17, 2012

Israel under attack ..... elinor


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In the early hours of this Sabbath, the IDF carefully removed Ismail Hanea’s office in Gaza from existence, along with the building in which it was located.  Oh there will be more than rumours of war I thought, when I read this news on the Internet.

This afternoon my 49-year-old son-in-law--who'd received his final discharge from the IDF when he was 45--was drafted. True, as a pharmacist, not an infantry grunt, but nevertheless. Moreover, if they do a lot of that, the practising pharmacist population of Israel will be mostly Arabs. They do well in pharmacy school and seem to have little trouble finding work as the ever mushrooming pharmaceutical chain stores require large numbers of licensed graduates. Some fine irony there.

Planes still flying over our small town, which seldom hears one and certainly not on the Sabbath. Interesting. Where are they going? Fly across Israel in three minutes, counting buckling the seat belt. From Tel Aviv one can walk to Gaza, if one is in good shape. Bombing raids? We’ll find out...

cross posted from Geoffff's Joint 

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  1. Progressive-left Nazis want more persecution of the Jews of Israel.

    These people are shameless and perhaps, even, evil.

    Hamas shot hundreds of rockets at Israel over the course of days and there was not a peep out of these people until Israel finally took measures to defend their people.

    And now that the Jews of Israel are fighting back against their persecutors, western progressives tell one another that Israelis are warmongers.

    These people are the New Nazis.

    On Daily Kos, on the Huff Post, at the Guardian, progressive-left Nazism calls for more persecution of the Jewish people.

    What I say is G-d bless and keep Israel and Israel should eliminate Hamas.

    There is no reason in this world why the Jews of the Middle East should put up with an organization in Gaza that calls specifically for the genocide of the Jews.

    Eliminate Hamas.

    Just as the US and Russia eliminated the Nazis in Germany, so Israel should take out that organization.

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  2. Like when they carefully did this:

    The front page photo on Thursday’s Washington Post tells, in a single frame, a very personal story from Wednesday’s Israeli airstrikes on the Gaza Strip. Jihad Misharawi, a BBC Arabic journalist who lives in Gaza, carries the body of his 11-month old son, Omar, through al-Shifa hospital in Gaza City.

    An Israeli round hit Misharawi’s four-room home in Gaza Wednesday, killing his son, according to BBC Middle East bureau chief Paul Danahar, who arrived in Gaza earlier Thursday. Misharawi’s sister-in-law was also killed, and his brother wounded. Misharawi told Danahar that, when the round landed, there was no fighting in his residential neighborhood.

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    1. Hi Nagaura,

      in case it's not evident, Jew Hunting Season is over.

      It ended in 1948 and we intend to keep it that way.

      Y'know, from the 7th century until early in the 20th, the Jews of the Middle East were the whipping boys of the majority population. They could kill us without any consequence and they subjugated us as second and third class citizens under the rules of dhimmitude.

      Those days are done.

      The Day of the Dhimmi is Done.

      I haven't said that in awhile, but I still kinda like it. It has a nice ring to it. Allow me to repeat.

      The Day of the Dhimmi is Done.

      I know that many people are uncomfortable with the idea of Jews that fight back, but you need to get used to it.

      Hamas bombarded southern Israel with several hundred rocket attacks last week and people such as yourself said nothing. 1 million Israeli citizens were practically living in bunkers and their kids are growing up with post-traumatic stress.

      And, now, when they fight back, people like you, people far from the ongoing war against the Jews of the Middle East, demonize them as warmongers.

      But no matter how you demonize us, we are never going back to the days of dhimmitude.

      So, sorry.

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    2. They're like clockwork, aren't they Mike? So predictable.

      They only find their voice against violence once enough is enough, and Israel decides to fight back. Progressive 'peace' activism at its finest.

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    3. Yep. Nary a word from Nag when the 100's of rockets were raining down on Israel. That was not worth mentioning was it?

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  3. Nagaura in what ever nation or culture you are you are morally contemptible. This is not an angry comment. It is simply a sad observation of the obvious.


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    1. geoffff, Jews are just not people to some. History proves it from Pharaoh to Nag and his lot.

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    2. It's the now-global Nazi-legacy propaganda that is causing the belief in this. The lies. The false images. The ubiquity and unanimity of the lies and the false images. It's effective. The Nazis knew this. And it's been the mass propagation of lies such as these that has caused so many people in Western societies (culturally Christian-European - Christian and formerly Christian -- societies) for two thousand years to belief these lies (lies originated by the Roman Catholic Christian church ("The Jews killed God." "The Jews are evil." "The Jews are powerful and evil.")) -- and, therein, to view Jewish people as not being people who are just like all other people. And the Nazis capitalized on this legacy and deliberately consciously systematically concentrated and propagated these lies. And, as part of this, the Nazis consciously exerted much effort into propagating these lies toward the Arab, and Muslim non-Arab, populations of the Middle East, and, as part of this, invented and mass propagated lies about the British Mandate of Palestine which inverted the truth of the history and then-current reality of the situation in what, at that time, was the British Mandate of Palestine, and those lies have been carried over into the present time and are being mass-propagated in the West and throughout the whole world.

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    4. A talk by George Gilder, the author of the book "The Israel Test"

      He says what needs to be said. He breaks it down. He lays it out. He states the obvious.

      RETHINKING THE END GAME (Part 4) Improving Lives in The Middle East

      "...I came to [the issue of Israel] very late in my life -- ...on the verge of my seventies. And...as I looked upon this phenomenon, it seemed to me that virtually everything I'd been reading about it for decades was not just slightly in error, it was just totally misconceived and ridiculous. And I must say, the idea of a 'Palestinian' state today is just an utter absurdity...The...notion that this is somehow tenable...that a group that...has recently [at the time of this talk in 2011] just...been sending grad missiles targeted at the Ashkelon desalinization plant that supplies all the water to Gaza[1] -- their own water -- is...should be awarded with a nation state...that has been devoted, since it's origins in... [Haj Amin] al-Husseini[2] -- the Grand Mufti, and Hitler's...consultant on the Holocaust -- I mean...it's just bizarre. And then...we have...Mahmoud Abbas, who's supposedly a moderate, and...[he] a 'moderate'...among the 'Palestinians'[3] is somebody who's unsure whether to...celebrate the Holocaust...or deny it's existence. It's...This is just an absurdity. And the degree of the absurdity became evident to me when I...read a book recently...after writing 'The Israel Test',...by a man name Walter Lowdermilk. ...I was giving a speech at a synagogue in Toronto, and, after it, a man came up very timorously to me and said: 'You really should read this book.', and he passed me this beat-up...dog-eared little green text by...Walter Lowdermilk, and it was called 'The Promise of Palestine', and it was written in 1939. And I recommend that all of you read it. It really is pretty dispositive of most of the issues and claims that persist to this day. [Because] what...Walter Lowdermilk was a Christian...and...married to...a Missionary, and he became...chief of research at essentially what was the department of Agriculture in the...Roosevelt administration. And he was sent on a global tour of...he was an expert on soil reclamation and water management, and he was sent on tour of the countries of the world, really, to...determine ways -- what the ancient civilizations had to...tell us about how to address water crises in the United States --...the Dust Bowl and the gullied...agriculture of the South had created a crisis...in the United States in the '30s, and Lowdermilk went all around the world -- he was an expert on China...and he finally came to 'Palestine'[4] in 1939, and he was astonished by...what he found there. And...he went through...the demography of the...situation, and what he showed was that the five hundred thousand...Israeli...or Jewish immigrants -- this was before the creation of Israel -- had essentially created 'Palestine'."

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      "That is: [they] had retrieved this country that...had been totally depleted of its soils, half the..soil on the hillsides had been...eroded away...much of...what now are orchards and...you know, amazing agricultural...industry, was sand dunes, and...it was...malarial swamps...and...there were just relatively few Arabs and most of them were sick...and he was really...distressed by this discovery..and he showed, however, the miraculous and amazing innovative agricultural, and soil reclamation, achievements of the Israeli settlers [the Jewish settlers] working on just six percent, or something, of the land had vastly expanded the capability of...the 'Palestine' area to support a population. And he...after twelve...you know, it once was a 'land of milk and honey' with millions of...people, and it had deteriorated over a thousand years into essentially a wasteland. And the...Israeli settlers retrieve...-- the Jewish settlers retrieve this land and made it possible...to support a significant population. And...he clinched his argument with a comparison to Jordan, which he showed, as [his being] a soil expert, was better endowed, than...'Palestine'[4], with agricultural potential, and...it's essentially the same Jordan river valley, and the same configuration of mountains and geological features. Yet Jordan...had one fifth the agricultural output of 'Palestine' -- these Arab [(mispeech) Jewish] settlers -- and...one tenth the population density of 'Palestine'[4]...In other words, he showed that the Jewish settlers actually created this country -- that you couldn't contemplate...five million Arabs living in this area...without the heroic and...unprecedented...achievements of [soil] reclamation, and...water management, and public hygiene, and..electrification,...that...these first Jewish settlers achieved. They essentially created this nation. There was none. ...And, as they created prosperity, there was migration from...other parts of the Arab world to take advantage of the huge opportunities that these few Jewish settlers created. So the...Arab population steadily grew, with a slight dip during the...after the...'48 war, but...this whole notion -- which...I have piles of books that document, in...all sorts of mendacious detail -- that somehow...Israelis displaced 'Palestinians' is just preposterous on the basis of demographic numbers. The more [there were] Israeli settlers the more [that] 'Palestinians' [Arabs] migrated [to 'Palestine'[4]]... And the Israeli spearhead of creativity and accomplishment...created the possibility of...'Palestine'[4] supporting a population of...Arabs. And...it's just that all the 'Naqba' nonsense is...is just bizarre. THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY...THERE IS NO 'PALESTINIAN' NATION(!)...except Jordan, and...I believe that the...the Israelis have negotiated with these people far too long! Why they think they got any claim! ...Tell'em to go negotiate with the Jordanians and the Syrians!..."

      (continued)

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      "[Israel] is where I go to find new technology -- fundamental advances. It's in Israel. And...it is *the* vital asset in the Middle East, but it's also the vital asset of world capitalism. It's the spearhead of world capitalism today...and the thing is, our adversaries know it...our enemies know that there is nothing more important in the world than Israel. They are right. They aren't wrong. They know that if the Jihad defeats Israel it will defeat the West...The demoralization, and...decay, that already afflicts the West will...in fact spread, and...endanger...all Western civilization. By defeating Israel, our enemies, the Jihadists, know they can decapitate Western civilization. And...*we* should understand this. ..."

      "...But, nonetheless, for all the modern feats and achievements [of Israel], I think Winston Churchill summed it up in 1939 in a speech in Parliament responding to efforts to withdraw British support for a Jewish state. Describing the magnificent work which the Jewish colonists had done, he said: 'They have made the desert bloom; started a score of thriving industries; founded a great city on a barren shore...' -- it was actually a malarial swamp -- '...harnessed the Jordan and spread its electricity throughout the land. So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowed into the country...' -- this is the general principal -- '...and multiplied till their population is increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the Jewish population...' -- No displacement [of Arabs]! -- '...Now we are asked to decree that all this is to stop and all this is to come to an end.' We're asked to believe -- and this is not Churchill [speaking] -- that somehow Israel is too big! Rather than too small! I mean only in Washington can they believe that this tiny country the size of Vermont is somehow too big! And needs to amputate land -- the one thing it doesn't have much of -- in order to acquire peace from a Nazi movement. That's the essence of Washington's policy. And as...Churchill said: 'We are now asked to submit, and this is what rankles most with me, to an agitation which is fed with foreign money...' -- the biggest recipients of foreign aid in the world...are the...'Palestinian' Arabs -- '...and ceaselessly enflamed by Nazi and Fascist propaganda.' And this was...is mutatis mutandis -- it's now U.N., world, globalistic propaganda but it has the same roots."

      This talk was part of a conference titled "Rethinking the End Game: Improving Lives in The Middle East". It was hosted by the Israel advocacy organization Z-Street. It took place May 4th 2011. The speakers were Harold Rhode, Gal Luft, Steven J. Rosen, Khaled abu Toameh, Nonie Darwish, Farid Ghadry and Mordechai Kedar.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L4egLu6mas

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      Notes:

      1. Israel provides all of the water and electricity to "The Gaza Strip", an area of land which is currently not part of Israel, and which the government of Israel currently has absolutely no presence in, and which was occupied by Egypt from 1949 to 1967, and which is currently occupied by, and governed by, Hamas -- a racist ideologically genocidally anti-Jewish terrorist organization whose official goal is the genocide of all of the Jewish people in the world. That Israel does this is surreal and absurd -- and, moreover, perverse and immoral. But it's standard operating procedure of Jewish people. And it's demanded of Jewish people by culturally Christian-European people [including American], and by Muslim Middle Eastern people -- because it's standard operating procedure of Jewish people. This needs to change, for the safety and well-being of the Jewish people, and for the safety and well-being of the whole world.

      2. Haj Amin al-Husseini was the mentor of Yasser Arafat and was the originator of what, in 1958, became al-Fatah (Fatah). The PLO (the Palestinian Liberation Organization) was created in 1964 by the Soviet KGB and then-President of then-Soviet-supported Egypt, Gamel Abdel Nasser. In the mid 1960's, Yasser Arafat was trained in Russia by the KGB to become the head of PLO, and, between 1969 and 1970, Yasser Arafat, as the head of Fatah, became the head of the PLO. Note: Haj Amin al-Husseini joined the Muslim Brotherhood in 1928, and was an early leader of the Muslim Brotherhood.

      3. The organizations of the 'Palestinian movement' -- Fatah-PLO and Hamas (Fatah-PLO is now called 'the Palestinian Authority') (Hamas was created in the late 1980's and is an official arm of the Muslim Brotherhood)

      4. The part of the British Mandate of Palestine which did not become Jordan; The British Mandate of Palestine was constituted by what is now Jordan, and by what is now Israel, and by what is now called "The West Bank" (Judea (Yehouda) and Sameria (Shomron)), and by what is now called "The Gaza Strip". British officials created the Arab state Transjordan in the British Mandate of Palestine between 1922 and 1924. Britain granted autonomy to Transjordan in 1946 and subsequently Transjordan was renamed Jordan.

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      Re: About what George Gilder referred to about the fact that Israel is a world leader of, if not the world leader of, technological innovation, and is the hub, and strategically existentially crucial component, of contemporary Western civilization:

      Israel Innovation
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHStBGk_D8Y

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  4. And to all you Hamas loving lurkers out there worried about how many of your precious Hamas terrorists are gonna die keep in mind that 75,000 reservists have been called out this time compared to 10,000 during Cast Lead. That outta keep you awake at night you damn Jew hating genocidal terrorist loving a-holes.

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  5. well said Doodad

    This will be big

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    1. Geoffff,

      thank you for sharing this with us.

      This is important because it's on the ground.

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    2. " Though President Obama uttered immediate and firm public and private assurances that Israel has a right to defend itself from rocket attacks emanating from Gaza, administration officials have been privately urging Israeli officials not to extend the conflict, a move that many American officials believe could benefit Hamas.

      A protracted escalation, the officials fear, could damage Israel’s already fragile relationships with Egypt and Jordan at a time when both of those governments have been coming under pressure from their own populations.

      ...

      A senior Obama administration official said the American message to Egypt had been “that we cannot have this conflict drag on, as it just risks greater threats to civilians......”

      http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/17/world/middleeast/us-fears-a-ground-war-in-gaza-would-hurt-israel.html?hp&_r=0

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  6. The reason I posted that was because I knew you just wouldn't care about the death of 11 month old child.

    And, yes you foolish people Israel like any country does have the right to defend its self.

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    1. The reason I posted that was because I knew you just wouldn't care about the ongoing trauma of Jewish children in the Middle East.

      Nagaura, you think that you hold some sort-of moral high ground, but the truth is that you don't.

      You're even spreading the blood-libel, but you do not even realize it.

      {I would be more than happy to explain just how that is if you would like.}

      But the cool thing is that Jews no longer need to live or die according to the opinions of people such as yourself.

      I cannot even begin to tell you how liberating this all is, Nagaura.

      The Jewish people are free for the first time in 2,000 years.

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    2. Hamas murdered that child, Naggy. Hamas were the ones that murdered him. You know how? By putting him in the line of fire instead of taking him to shelter like Israeli Jews do their women and children.

      It's a habitual and deliberate thing with Hamas, as it is with all other Islamic terrorist organizations, like Hezbollah in Lebanon and the Taliban in Afghanistan. They all do that, they all put their women and children in the line of fire, habitually and deliberately.

      You want to know why they would do such a thing? Because of their demonic win-win calculation, one that is possible only if you leave the regard for human life out of the equation: Put the women and children in the line of fire and then the other side will either abstain from firing out of fear of hurting them, or the other side will fire and inevitably hurt them and then the grisly pictures could be presented as "evidence" of "Israeli cruelty" to a Western bien-pensant world that laps it up.

      You know what that makes you, Naggy? A useful idiot. A stooge for Islamic imperialist aggression. The modern-day equivalent of Lord Haw Haw. You should be so proud.

      Israel cannot be more merciful to the women and children on the other side than they are to themselves. Israel as the state of the Jews has the duty of being merciful to its own women and children, by making sure that they are no longer under danger of rocket attacks. The bien-pensants preaching at us from the safety of their armchairs abroad can go pound sand.

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    3. And BTW:

      Dead child cradled by Egypt's PM was killed by Hamas
      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/11/dead-child-cradled-by-egypts-pm-was-killed-by-hamas.html

      "Pallywood and its spin machine are working furiously these days, with the willing cooperation of the mainstream media: 'Dead child cradled by Egypt's PM was killed by Hamas!,' from Elder of Ziyon, November 17 (thanks to Inexion):

      "The Mirror (UK) on Friday published this, as did many other newspapers:

      [A still image]

      "And here is how CNN reported the child's death:

      [A video]

      "CNN takes it as a given that young Mahmoud Sadallah (Sadhala) was killed by an Israeli airstrike.

      "Only one problem: he was killed by a Hamas rocket that fell short in Gaza."

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    4. "The concept of the 'evil Jew' has made a well-disguised comeback: Criticizing Israel and Zionists is now deemed a legitimate option to cursing Jews and Judaism. Not only is it open, socially acceptable and legal, but it can actually bring prosperity and popularity. This new form of anti-Semitism 2.0 is well-covered-up, harder to trace and poses a much deeper danger to the modern way of life of the civilized world than the earlier crude form of it, as it slowly and gradually works on delegitimizing Jews to the point where it eventually becomes acceptable to target Jews, first verbally, then physically -- all done in a cosmopolitan style where the anti-Semites are well-groomed speakers and headline writers in jackets and ties; and not just Arab, but American and European, from 'sanitized' news coverage of the most bloodthirsty radicals, to charges against Israel in which facts are distorted, selectively omitted or simply untrue..."

      -- Mudar Zahran, 'Palestinian' Arab writer and academic from Jordan who currently resides in the U.K. as a political refugee, Anti-Semitism 2.0 (http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/1979/anti-semitism-20)

      "...I find it shameful and see in all this the rise of a new fascism, a new Nazism. A fascism, a Nazism, that much more grim and revolting because it is conducted and nourished by those who hypocritically pose as do-gooders, progressives, communists, pacifists, Catholics or rather Christians, and who have the gall to label a warmonger anyone like me who screams the truth. ..."

      -- Orianna Falaci, Italian journalist who opposed fascism and who fought as a Partisan against the Nazi-allied Fascist regime of Italy during World War II, Vergognosi gli attacchi a Israele, 2002 (http://www.oerby.dk/sider/Oriana%20Fallaci.htm)

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    1. Dan, thanks for posting this material.

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